No Spanish, No Job; Job discrimination against English speaking U.S. citizens

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Question. In Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, why is it legal to discriminate against English-speaking job seekers? The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of the person’s race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.  But for many job seekers today, the dreaded term “Bilingual” has slammed the door in their face before they have filled in the application. With +9% unemployment, its hard enough for an American to find work, but then adding knowing Spanish in as a criteria for employment, that opens up unfair hiring practices against those whose only fault is not knowing a foreign language. Why should an American citizen be forced to hablar another countries language to work in the U.S? To work in Mexico, I get it, know some Spanish; to work in China, alright, know some Mandarin; to work in the U.S., hell English should do it!

When skimming through the job section of newspapers and online job search sites, companies seeking bilingual applicants has seem to become an accepted norm.

“Consumer products company experiencing dramatic growth seeks an experienced Process Engineer who is Bilingual in Spanish.” (CareerBuilder)

And also with many illegal Mexican, Spanish-speaking immigrants flooding the American job market, Americans have consistently heard, “illegals are doing jobs most Americans don’t want to do”. But illegal immigrant low skilled jobs trickle upward in the job market, where businesses such as banking, retailers, healthcare, and other employers are needing Spanish-speaking people to assist the growing Spanish-speaking population, and often businesses even prefer those who look like their new clients, which leads to discriminating against those of a different race, color or national origin.

“We are currently looking for a qualified applicant to fill the following position:  Therapist 1 Bilingual – Spanish” (CareerBuilder)

Just like race, age, color, sex, and national origin, one can’t help being born and raised English-speaking in America. For me, English is just as a part of me as my race, color, or national origin and I can’t help that, it’s a natural part of my life, from birth to death (however I’m Black and speak Spanish).

And please stop with the notion that the southern states belonged to Mexico. Quick history, U.S. won over most of the southern land from Spain, Spain who took the land from native Americans, who prior to Hernando Cortez the Conqueror, many tribes fought over the land and took it from each other. Mexicans have Cortez and Spain to blame for most of their conquest, the U.S. actually benefited from the initial havoc started by Spaniards.

Since the EEOC is there to protect job seekers from discrimination, I look for the day when English-speaking U.S. citizens would file a class action discrimination law suit against businesses that blocked employment because they didn’t speak Spanish. A case against the U.S. government would be even better, since it is the U.S. not doing it’s duty to protect it’s citizens civil rights.  It seems logical to me. Shouldn’t any U.S. citizen stake claim to “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”, over illegal immigrants? Yes!

Click here to read “Employment Discrimination: Race, Sex, Ethnicity And Now Language Grounds For Discrimination In U.S“. Posted January 3, 2013.

Comments to this article are closed. I would like to thank those that showed interest in this topic but  my choice to discontinue comments was due to the continued blatant racist and hate-filled  comments aimed at Blacks. This article questioned the fairness of allowing Spanish speaking ILLEGAL immigrants to shape the U.S. job market and push legal residents, mainly Blacks out of jobs.

Many used their time here to show just how racist and hate-filled they are toward Blacks. Where this article was meant to discuss “No Spanish, no job”, it has become very clear that many Latinos, feel they are superior to Blacks and feel Blacks are the globes virus. I have known for a while that many Latinos hate Blacks and I hope those reading this article from this point start to recognize this as well. Blacks have suffered, bled and died to give Latinos and other minority groups many of the rights they have today; history shows Blacks hanging from trees, attacked by police dogs, marching and protesting. Instead of thanks and appreciation, Blacks receive jealousy and hate from many groups. But history shows the many contributions of Blacks to the U.S. and the world, and if it was not for the labor of Blacks throughout most America’s history, the U.S would not be the U.S.

Furthermore, those that make the silly argument to “just learn Spanish” or “most countries welcome multiple languages”, let’s examine Mexico to show how silly these arguments are. In Mexico language breaks down to Spanish only 92.7%, Spanish and indigenous languages 5.7%, indigenous only 0.8%, unspecified 0.8% [English included] (2005 World Fact Book). Mexico, the country that is most responsible for Americans having to learn Spanish to work is overwhelmingly Spanish speaking. Where is the push inside Mexico to be multilingual? You hypocrites!

Mexicans should try to fix their broken and corrupt country before trying to “invade” another.

Blacks should wake up and see that we are enemies of other minority groups (especially Latinos), what we have gained they want, and will cheat, politic and steal to take it.

354 thoughts on “No Spanish, No Job; Job discrimination against English speaking U.S. citizens

  1. This is a fascinating question you raise, you devil. On the one hand, I am all about the government staying out private business’s business. If xyz service co. in Miami realizes that to meet it’s customers needs and increase profits, they need spanish-speaking employees, who is the government to tell them how to write their job ad and who to hire? Which is why I do not believe in ANY type of affirmative action, either. On the other hand? Well, it does seem a bit discriminatory. BUT if you believe in a truly free market, giving employers the right to hire who they will, job seekers to accept the jobs they will and customers to choose the products they will, then I think you have to take the good with the bad. My only suggestion if you do not like it is to NOT purchase the products and services of those companies and if you are so inclined, contact the companies, boycott, etc. Money talks.
    (But this does beg the question, why English has never been officially “declared” the official language of the U.S.)

    • Freedom, I’m for less government too, but I do want the government to protect the U.S. citizens right to life and liberty before protecting that of illegal immigrants.

      The Border States job markets are being manipulated by illegal populations. It’s a problem that illegal immigrants are the customers. People, who shouldn’t be here, shouldn’t dictate hiring practicing that inevitably leaves many legal citizens unemployed. I’m all for the free market, but the free market dictated by U.S. citizens, not illegal immigrants.

      It’s like seeing legal smoke shops pop up which cater to the illegal marijuana smoker crowd. A legit solution, to a criminal action. And you may be right it may be just a bit discriminatory, but I’m a mad ass legal citizen and a bit is too much at this point.
      I just find it crazy that U.S. citizens are forced to learn another countries language in order to work in the U.S.

      Good points, Freedom.

    • I believe it was when entering our country still meant that you had to show proof that you would not be a burden on the citizens living in the United States, that you were free from any communicable disease and that you could apply for and take the citizenship tests in English all by yourself. How far we have stumbled from doing good for our own citizens. Case in point, “Press 1 for English,” huh? I live in the United States….

      • I agree!! Look I went to medical school and after I graduated I started to apply, its funny Cus I applied at one hospital and the lady who gave me the application said if you don’t speak Spanish then we won’t hire you because most of our patients are Hispanic. So I got mad and told her if that’s the case why didn’t they tell us this in medical school before I shot my ass into debt and she started talking in Spanish and I felt so mad. She had the nerve to say well we came here first and blah blah. So I started bringing out facts to shut her fat face up and she just shrugged her shoulders and said adios Americana . From that moment I realized wait my parents came to this country from the islands for us to have an opportunity in life but we can’t because we don’t speak Spanish? Wtf is going on that I have to learn Spanish when I don’t even speak my own language because English was priority growing up since we are Americans and to have someone tell me I have to learn another language if I want a job anywhere just irritates me. I don’t find that fair.

        • have you tried speaking with the EEOC? I’m sick and tired of what is going on all around us. My niece who work’s at Mc Donald’s, was told she had to learn Spanish, if she wants to continue working there. And my 16 yr. old nephew got hired at Carl’s Jr. But, now he feels very uncomfortable working there. All the workers speak to him in Spanish. And continue to speak in Spanish. Thank God, he did take Spanish in high school. But, he isn’t that good at it. And I realized my nephew will only work the register and the dining room area. He will never experience working all around like I did when I was 16 and working at Carl’s Jr. I loved working at Carl’s. It was a fast paced work environment that me and my crew members loved being able to work any position we were needed in. It was good experience to learn how to cook and make the orders and see how fast we could get the customers served. But, the only workers that work in most all fast food places that work in the back area. Are all Spanish speaking. My nephew and his friends that would love to work at a fast food joint while finishing up high school. Either wont get hired because they don’t know any Spanish. Or, because they aren’t Hispanic. I am just so frustrated by what is going on. And now I want to do something about it. I just now am looking into what I can do to make a difference. And voice our opinions. Because all of our kids need our help.

    • You have a double-standard language here! In the United States of AMERICA…the only reason why the fore-father’s did not include language within the constitution is because it was assumed that the American language would be English automatically…and by the way, there are current proposals to declare English as the official law of the U.S., as it should be. If it’s considered discrimination in regards to race, gender, background, etc…..then what is the difference with language discrimination? If we were in Mexico or Japan, they would never even consider the requirement of another language that is not the language of the land…for NO reason! It is only logical and intelligent to learn the language of your residence…to expect the country to cater to your language from another country is absurd! You should grow up and adapt to your environment. No this land does not belong to the Spanish. If that’s the case, then the Native Americans can claim the same position. To require “bilingual only” is discrimination and ridiculous! To prefer an applicant to be bilingual is not as bad, but as a requirement…that’s unjust to the American citizen

  2. It probably wouldn’t be so much of an issue if the gov’t would do it’s job and actually protect the border from the illegal invasion. It would also help if American was made our official national language.

    I have developed a quirk the last few years about calling our language English. My husband has written some tech books for a British publishing co., and he had to make sure to use British terms. As his “first eyes” on everything he writes, I realized how different our languages really are. For instance, when was the last time you went to the loo? ;)

    We have our own unique way of speaking now that’s pretty far removed from the English it started out as. And frankly, I think ours is better, lol.

    • But I love the British accent. That was lost because America really is a melting pot with early immigrants from all over Europe. I also love reading British novels. I find their words fun. “Loo” is so much more fun than bathroom or ladies room. “Lift” is so much more appropriate that elevator–unless it’s headed down or course (lol!)

  3. Just as an FYI, most countries require people to speak English in order to get a job. Globalization. Look it up.

    • I speak seven languages, this does not mean I make USA change the primary. And yes if you read a little you will find out American English is the primary language, Americans are too afraid of being politically incorrect..Trust me you are incorrect.

    • So Why Its Spanish Being Required InThe USA Is That Why So Many ImmigrantS Are Flooding ToThe US Because English Is Not Reqired.

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  5. Bilinguism is actually good for your brains’ health and is well-known for expanding one’s mind. I recommend trying learning some Spanish instead of complaining; it might help you get a job and give you less time to write pieces of trash like this article.

    • First, yo hablo espanol and a bit of French(got a C). Second, I have a job and I am working toward my PhD. Third, the article is on how illegal immigration has caused an invasion of Spanish speakers which through this illegal act is causing legal citizens to have to accomodate the language of law-breakers. To be forced to comply based on the illegal invasion is BS and unfair. Of course those who invade are not complaining and for Blacks who are losing jobs I’m sure you don’t care about, which opens up another discussion on the fact that many Hispanics are prejudice and dislike Blacks.

    • I’m pretty sure that u are not an American national based on your ignorant comment, and you are therefore bias with a chip on your shoulder anyway. Therefore, your opinions doesn’t matter in regards to our plight anyway, because you are a non-factor….so bye to you

    • Amen! Talk about kindergarten logic, this entire “article” is ridiculous. I want this job BECAUSE I WANT IT! Not because I have the skills it requires!!!

    • So Then Free Spanish Classs should Be Offerd To Us Just As Free English Classes Are Being Offers To Immigrants.

  6. I see that this post is almost a year old, but I just stumbled across it and thought I could provide some insight. I am a New Yorker studying in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. For some background, Canada is officially bilingual, however Quebec is officially only French. There is a long history of francophones (French speakers) and anglophones (English speakers) living along side each other, though not without their tensions. Over the past sixty years or so, the provincial government became very nationalistic and pro-French, and passed the language laws that you seem to favor. French is required on all business signs, while any other language must be smaller and underneath. Recently, they have even said that knowing English cannot be a requirement for a job, even though the service sector in downtown Montreal and many English pockets rely on bilingualism for their businesses. To me, the parallels seem endless. There is a significant residual anglophone community here, just as there is a significant residual hispanophone community in the South and Southwest US. I find the language laws to be absurd; the government should not interfere with a private business if that business wants to market to a linguistic demographic. Where I’m from, some stores are all in Spanish, and others are all in Yiddish. To bad, they won’t get my business, but that was their business decision.

    Anyway, just thought I’d share that with you… have a nice day.

    • I understand your explanation of Canada’s bilingual issues but if Canada does not have millions of illegal Spanish-speaking immigrants invading and saturating it’s borders than there is no comparison. The U.S. problem is that a language is being forced upon it’s legal residents through massive illegal immigration. This is hurting the historically “First fired, last hired” Blacks in America. Through racism and prejudices Blacks have traditionally been “outside the window, looking in” and now illegal immigrants are taking many jobs Blacks were doing. DO NOT believe the hype that illegals do work most Americans do not want to do. There are many cities where you see Whites, Blacks and minorities other than illegal Latino’s doing those so-called “dirty jobs”. This illegal immigration problem in the US is terribly minimized because it only hurts lo-income, minorities such as Blacks and many could care less. Lifting up illegals is by default sinking legal Black citizens.

      • I think the similarities are stronger than you give them credit. Areas in the South and Southwest US have been Spanish speaking for about as long as Quebec has been French speaking, and furthermore, they have also been anglicized for about the same amount of time. To imagine what it is like in Quebec, pretend that the people of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico fought to maintain their linguistic heritage of Spanish after the US incorporated them, and subsequently passed the same language laws for Spanish as you propose for English. Obviously this is not the case, however you could imagine the problems that would arise when the government forces private citizens and businesses to operate in one language or another. I think there is a fear that Spanish is somehow going to take over English in the US, but it is simply unfounded. In the US our laws are in English, our institutions are in English, but most importantly, our public schooling is exclusively in English. This last fact alone ensures that any second generation American will undoubtedly become fluent in English. This is the reason why in Quebec they make it as difficult as possible to prevent children from going to English schools.

        I understand your concern about illegal immigration and it is definitely a very important conversation to have, however I think the issue of language is a distraction from that. Although it could be reasonably assumed that there is a high correlation between hispanophones and illegal immigrants, it is only the latter that is illegal. The freedom to speak Spanish in the US is as American as apple pie and shouldn’t be prevented or prohibited by the government. Obviously there is also an enormous population of legal hispanophones in the US who may prefer private businesses to serve them in Spanish. That should be the sole decision of the private business, and if they think that they will increase their profits by hiring bilingual employees, then I see absolutely no reason why that should be discouraged, let alone prohibited.

        • William, you make excellent points but continue to miss my point. I am looking at this from a Black American’s perspective/reality. I speak Spanish but most Blacks don’t. I live in Texas and in areas where Blacks were once heavily employed but businesses prefer to now hire Hispanics, legal and/or illegal. I did a research paper and examined Differential Social Power. The research involved a chicken processing plant called Crider Inc., located in Stillmore, Georgia, population 763. Population breakdown is African Americans (47.9%), White Non-Hispanics (33.6%), Hispanic (17.8%), and other races (16.8%); the median age is 28.5 (City-Data.com).
          I began the research by examining a 2006 case where a predominately African American community looked to have been discriminated against for local jobs while illegal immigrants were actively sought for employment. Amongst Georgia’s heavily African American rural community of Stillmore; the local chicken processing plant named Crider Inc. had become the hub for the local economy in an area where employment was scarce. The scarcity of work was particularly felt by low-skilled African-Americans who by virtue of a poor education, lack of means or choice have been unable to follow jobs as they moved away to bigger cities like Atlanta. Until the late 1990s, the plant employed a majority black workers, with whites and some blacks as supervisors, according to current and former employees. By 2006, blacks had come to represent only 14% of the work- force. Black supervisors were let go due to not being able to communicate with the Hispanic workers. With the plant having 75% of its mostly 900 member workforce being illegal immigrants, this while within a community of unemployed, limited education, African Americans. It was shown that company personnel aided and abetted in covering illegal status.
          “Houston we’ve had a problem”. In Texas and other states these hiring practices are racist and the affects of positive and negative stereotyping. What’s bad is Illegal Immigrants have an overriding status over Black American job seekers. I know it’s hard to understand if you don’t see it. But Spanish speaking hiring practices automatically excludes lo-income, low-educated Blacks from employment before the application is submitted.
          Sorry for opining! Thanks for the chat; I’ve learned a bit more about Canada.

          • Thank you as well, I hadn’t thought before about the disproportionate effect that illegal immigration may have on Black Americans in the South. Have a nice day!

  7. re: non-spanish speaking ppl challenging the biilingual job requirement–it’s been done–the Fifth Circuit in it’s wisdom decided this does not constitute racial discrimination under Title VII. IMO immigrants begged, borrowed and stole in order to live in this country should have someone translate for them if they haven’t yet had the opportunity to learn English. Get serious! you CHOSE to live your life in a foreign country. Instead they make me cater to them in Spanish and basically torpedo my chances of gainful employment. Basta Ya!

  8. No Protection for the Non-Bilingual: To say that everyone is capable of learning a new language is a very thin cover.

  9. The fact that this country has even come to such a reality is absurd!! The idea that a person should have the right to require “bilingual only” within their company is BS! If you establish a business in the United States, then you are no exception to the rule! That business owner has to abide by the laws of the land,just like everyone else, and discrimination is not allowed in any workplace. So to require an applicant to be bilingual is just as much discrimination as discriminating against an applicant for their race, gender, etc. As I stated before, it’s okay to prefer a bilingual applicant, but to have the right to require this absurdity is nothing but the same old unjust BS against the American citizens that has existed every since the Unites States has allowed this invasion of illegals, and the fact that they have allowed illegals to be out of control like this, is the cause of this “bilingual only” nonsense in the workplace. It is unjust and irrational for a citizen of the United States to be required to speak a foreign language for any job. So the solution is for the citizens of the U.S. to protest and effectively fight for their equal and just rights as a United States citizen, and if more of society would wake up and establish this conquest, this absurdity would eventually be rectified for American citizens. It’s ridiculous to actually want to cater to lawless-illegal individuals anyway! It’s abnormal to even believe that you are within your rights to require a country to cater to you because you speak another language, as if it’s okay that you don’t have sense enough to want to learn the language of the land instead. And for a company to even try to enforce bilingual only…that only perpetuates the problem with the illegal invasion in the first place. That does nothing but send the American citizen down even lower on the totem pole, especially African Americans.

    • To include one group, employers exclude another. And let’s be real, the influx of illegal immigrants is causing this bizarro world phenomenom. Cheaters are “WINNING”! glad you see it droper67.

  10. Learn Spanish, it’s fun and easy! Since you know English, that means you understand THE HARDEST LANGUAGE TO LEARN IN THE WORLD!

    So simply reading a book in Spanish will get your mind thinking in the right patterns, and you will be able to communicate your thoughts to a Spanish speaker more effectively.

    Language learning is fun, and while certainly not a requirement, leads you in many directions for you in life.

    As a native English speaker, bilingual in English/Japanese/Spanish, (trilingual is a ridiculous word…) I have had my world opened to an entire new way of thinking.

    Not to mention the PILES UPON PILES of literature that are written by EXTREMELY BRILLIANT writers that a simple translation will not deliver.

    The world is open, will you hide or seek?

    • Learning other languages is awesome! However, the point is that becoming bi-lingual, or tri-lingual, or whatever is a matter of choice, and no American citizen should be discriminated against, or be unable to obtain employment due to being fluent in the language of their native land…which is ENGLISH! The solution is for foreigners to learn English when they make the choice to become a citizen of the U.S.A. why not? What’s more beneficial? How inconvenient life must be to be limited in your homeland

  11. I want to point out first that I live in Canada and the problem may be different but I know this really good chinese restaurant and the guy and his wife that work there are as far as I know from China and speak English with a strong accent. Most languages our country doesn`t speak. I know that Americans don`t have to speak even two extra languages, only the extra one. Being bilingual can be a very important thing and I think that in part it is wrong but it is also right that they hire BILINGUAL PEOPLE! English is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn and we`re lucky we speak it. English though, should be a requirement just as much as Spanish and from what I`ve read it seems it isn`t. It`s not bilingual problems you face so don`t blame the Spanish speaking. Blame the Spanish only!

      • It’s discrimination simply because we live in America, and in America we are not allowed to deny any citizen employment due to their race, color, gender, etc., and language discrimination is the same thing! So do some further research on the true definition of discrimination

      • So if, say ESPN in Español needs a reporter that can translate something to a Hispanic boxer should hire someone who can´t speak Spanish? By the way , Spanish is a better-structured language than English, has more words and is spoken in many countries. Many Blacks have it as their first language too.

        • First off, this issue is about language discrimination in the U.S.A. This is not about ESPN or a spanish boxer. Being required to speak spanish is optional in the U.S.A. because this is not Mexico. Furthermore, your comment about spanish being better than english is plain ignorance and very unnecessary

        • So I am sure you would be okay if Mexican citizens in Mexico lost jobs to bilingual black American immigrants coming to Mexico illegally. It would not happen! Mexicans would not allow it. It is okay to protect your jobs and culture but not okay for Americans to do the same. And stick to talking about what’s happening in the US, other countries have their own problems.

  12. How is that discrimination? An employer choosing someone who can speak a second language over someone who can’t, but both have same qualifications, is not discrimination. The person who is bilingually obviously has more skills and deserves the job more. And yes, we may have to accommodate to people who don’t speak English, but live with it. There is always going to be language barriers. Not every single person who comes to America is going to know English. It’s part of life. And it’s not changing any time soon.

  13. In which of all those points you have made you are NOT a racist and NOT discriminating? I understand your frustration but let me tell you a story… In the majority of cases, when employers look for “bilingual blah blah” -and even more so in the case of Spanish- they are actually targeting cheaper labor, hence offering to pay less for something a monolingual would do, probably for more pay. THAT is discrimination, to be paid less for having MORE skills.

    The truth of the matter is that we live in a competitive, capitalist society where companies just want profit by whatever means possible, including governments (in this case less spending is probably more accurate). This is the harsh truth, you are directing your hate and frustration to the wrong target: honest people just like you who know two ways of expressing instead of one, and you want to punish them for it.

    You are also wrong about Europe. I come from Spain and I can tell you that over there a promotion or a job will depend on your knowing English, and not having gone to work in London or Dublin may hinder your career. So please, do not blame your inability or laziness to learn a skill on the population that do have that extra skill.

    The only thing you actually pointed which makes any sense at all might be the idea that people who come to live here should make an effort to speak English to a practical degree of proficiency. This is merely practical. Of course, the reality is that many immigrants may be too old or uneducated to learn the language, because the older you get the more difficult it becomes, in case you did not know that, and you probably should not worry about them anyway because they will end up harvesting crops (which you do not want to do) or working the night shift (which you probably will not want to do either).

    But the reality of facts is this: you need to learn HTML5 if you want to be a web designer in the coming years, even if you have been one for a decade. You also need to learn Spanish because companies want to fight that market segment. If anything, companies should get sued for demanding a job be bilingual when it need not be, this is the most you could claim. They should also be sued for not paying more when the candidate has more skills, but then the job market is so competitive after the crisis that you can hardly complain if you do get the job. But I want you to realize though, that the root of the problem here is the company’s hiring strategies, not those people getting hired.

    If, after all this, you still feel like you want to direct your hate and slander towards the Hispanic population, at least show your true colors for what they are instead of hiding under a fallacy of false discrimination.

  14. First off “Anonymous,” you are obviously harboring a taste of hatred yourself, considering your comment. Your comment displays nothing but ignorance for even assuming to understand what I have expressed in my previous comments, when you clearly do not get it. If you understood my comments, then you would observe that I did not display any form of hatred or racism at all! But on the other hand, maybe you are so blinded by your own defensive behavior for the bi-lingual community that you are incapable of realizing where I’m coming from anyway, (in which you are obviously Hispanic, since you made reference to Hispanics, when I did not target them at all). So let me reiterate my point to those whom are oblivious to it, such as yourself….there’s no hatred behind any statement that I have made. So first understand the difference between hatred and frustration. And my only frustration is with our broken American system, which allows this loophole in the first place! My gripe is not against the bi-lingual community, as they are just trying to get ahead just the same as the rest of us these days. And just so you know, I am African-American, Caddo Indian, and Spanish, so it’s very foolish to assume something of someone. And the nerve of you to assume that I’m not bi-lingual in the first place, just because I express frustration with this broken, unjust system of ours. The nerve of you to attack my character and call me lazy! Were your bigot remarks stemming from your own prejudice which has slandered my character by calling me lazy, as in attempting to infer to African-Americans as being lazy? Nevertheless, just because you are incapable of understanding logical arguments, don’t attempt to attack my character because you have no clue, nor could a debate with you be of any relevance to me. Also, I never made a comment regarding Europe, nor have I claimed to be a web designer, so you are obviously mistaken about which post you are referring to. Who’s looking to punish someone? Where did you pull that out of? As I stated earlier, your perception of my comments are discombobulated, and it’s terrible to jump to conclusions based on an inability to comprehend where one is coming from. The fact about the elderly immigrants is irrelevant because they are obviously not in the market of competing for jobs (hopefully not). And your assumption about the American people not wanting to work in jobs that immigrants work is total nonsense! That’s just BS that stems from the defensive argument, and “so-called” justification as to why the American people are constantly robbed of jobs within the U.S. by non-American citizens.If given the opportunity, many American citizens will do the same job as any immigrant will do, such as working the night shift, in which I worked for four (4) years. So you really need to check your own character and clean up your own bias attitude, and be absolute before attacking someone with your “FALLACY” of false accusations. Fallacy of false discrimination?! Really?! Just stop please! And who ever tried to slander someone?! Seems like you are doing a fine job of attempting to slander me. You can’t call me out on something when the accusation is as twisted and as unfounded as yours. Thank you and Good night!

    • first off “Loser” it is awfully foolish of you to assume that I’m not bi-lingual in the first place, just because as an American citizen, I have a problem with language discrimination as an attempt to cater to immigrants, at the expense of the the American people….why not be outraged when a situation is among us, depriving the American people within their own homeland, the right to enjoy a fruitful life? This situation is twisted and unjust on so many different levels, and so many people are unaware, for many different reasons, but it’s up to citizens such as myself, and many others that are on this same page to rise up against it. Any citizen with any sense would have a problem with a “so-called” system that condones discrimination in any form, so maybe you’re just not an American citizen, or maybe you just don’t give a damn, or maybe you are just another hater of the American people, waiting to attack any American citizen for having a say against the racism and injustice that some wish to see flourish within this nation, all because they lack the people skills and sensibility to have compassion and get along with others, coming from their prejudice backgrounds, or maybe you belong to that group with that chip on their shoulder, claiming that California, etc., belongs to the Spanish. There are so many different maybes, but regardless, here’s a little lesson in history for you since you obviously don’t realize it….California, just as several other lands belonged to the native people before the Spanish killed most of them and stole the land from them, then as karma would have it, the Europeans stole the land from the Spanish. Bottom line, this land belongs to all people, so STOP IT! And there is no ONE race that can claim to be the rightful recipients of this land. There is no ONE race deserving special, preferential treatment or liberties, so again I say…STOP IT! So certain people need to remove that chip from their shoulder. Educate themselves, elevate themselves and just KNOCK IT OFF! You are clearly coming from a biased perspective. And it is also the right of any American citizen to be opposed to accommodating individuals who refuse to (with the exception of those incapable of learning new languages) adapt to their environment….that my friend is just ignorance 101! Expecting the inhabitants of the land in which you chose to move into, to adapt to your language and your culture is just outright foolishness! If one chooses to take an interest in ones’ language and culture, that’s strictly a matter of preference, it should never become a necessity, because that is flat out unjust, as well as un-american, in which this entire topic is about in the first place. It is a persons’ prerogative to become bi-lingual. Becoming bi-lingual has no relevance to a persons’ intellect or capabilities, none other than catering to other languages, and for you to insinuate that one is lacking, if they are not bi-lingual only proves your lack of, etc, etc…Most of us realize that the problem is much deeper than it appears to be, because in some places (mainly California) we have a group of people, with a hidden agenda of racism and hatred, attempting to dominate and discriminate against the American citizen, especially the African-American citizen, with this loophole that our corrupt government has allowed to flourish (so far)…then these same people have the audacity to turn right around and claim that they are treated unfairly in this country, claiming that the constitution is unconstitutional, infringing upon their freedom and liberties because the system is not designed to cater to their racist, self-righteous, lawless behavior…You want to talk about hypocrisy?! Why don’t you talk about hatred and racism as well…the real issues here! And the fact that these people decided to partake in this sort of ignorant behavior, is their own choice, therefore, why should another individual be called a racist just because they are intelligent enough to recognize what’s really going on?! Those recognizing this disgusting behavior within individuals didn’t ask for this, they are just victims and targets of the hate, so why not exert your God-given, constitutional right to take a stand against it. Anytime that an individual decides to take a stand against injustice or racism, or any other violation of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we have hatemongers claiming them to be hostile, or racist, or some sort of threat….how big on bigotry can a bigot truly be?! SMDH! Hypocrisy (as you called it) must be just another definition that you have no real knowledge of. The problem is the invasion of immigrants, attempting to dominate, leaving American citizens damn near obsolete…especially with this accommodating, twisted unjust justice system that we are victims of. If you would spend more time focusing on topics that concern you, because clearly this topic is not your business, as you must be an immigrant yourself like I stated before, since you took such a defensive stance against my comments that you obviously could not competently comprehend in the first place, nevertheless, if you put your energy into positive behavior, instead of the biased behavior that you display, you would be more equipped to read between the lines when necessary, because I did not once make any claim that spanish speaking individuals are in any way inferior or inexperienced. Degrading others and claiming others to be inferior is the lingo of those racist oppressors, lurking within our society. me racist? Not even close…rather redefine your own intent behind the nonsense that you have expressed. If you can’t relate and read between the lines and recognize discrimination when you see it, that’s your own misfortune that you need to address. Also, this topic is not, nor has it ever been about any other country besides the U.S.A., therefore we have no concern about what goes on in China, or Germany, etc….so your little so-called side info was very unnecessary, such as your stance here. By the way, of course english is the language of America, just as spanish is the language of Mexico, etc… so again, I fail to understand your point, or lack thereof. So bottom line, your opinion is totally unnecessary in this matter because you are a non-factor. You are nothing more than a prejudice, loser of a so-called person, so backspace, delete, and bye to you

  15. I will agree with what you said to the point that a multi-lingual person will get hired over a non multi-lingual person should the position/environment either require or benefit from it. That is the nature of business, supply and demand. in your example of the hospital the increase of Spanish speaking customers/patients in need of help is the demand and the bi-lingual employees are the supply. The bi lingual employee can do both Spanish AND English customers and you can only do English customers. Simply put, you cant do their job but they can do their job AND yours. The bi lingual employee is simply the better choice for the position.

    As for your statement of “The other countries do not accommodate English in most places.” I find it that English is probably the most accommodated for language out of all the languages. Try to speak Japanese in France or German in China.

    1: English is regarded as the global language of business, that’s pretty darn accommodating. Since its so difficult to learn there might even be a new language based off of English because of it for everyone to use, time will tell.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/03

    2: Every international airport in the world is required to speak only in English in Air Traffic Control and between pilots radios etc… What more are you looking for? World domination?

    http://www.proenglish.org/news/mainstream-media/24

    As a little side info here is some Extra less “known for” countries that have their populations that haf English Learned as a Second Language and how much.

    India – 232 million people – 23% of population

    Nigeria – about 79 million people – over 50% of population

    Philippines – Over 55 million people – 55% of population

    Germany – 46 million – 56% of population

    France – 23 million – 36% of population

    Pakistan – 18 million – 11% of population

    Italy – 17 million – 29% of population

    Sadly, It is pretty clear however that your post is racially motivated and basically a racially fueled rant with a bit of anger because you refuse to learn more then one language for whatever your personal reasons are. I also found it interesting that you believe that every single person you mentioned that speaks Spanish is less experienced and skilled then every single person that doesn’t speak Spanish. I’ll never understand why people in this country complain about people coming from other countries and speaking other languages. Your family came here from another country too and I don’t see you speaking in Aztec or Apache, you brought and spoke your own language as well, just like the people you are complaining about. Such hypocrisy. so droper, stop being so inane and accept the fact that there is more to the world than hate , anger, and prejudice, lmao @ the pathetic loser nothing droper

    • The complaint is that spanish is shaping Americas job market through an illegal invasion of spanish speaking people. Also there are many American citizens (poor, minority groups) who do not have an opportunity to learn Spanish. I learned Spanish in college but many do not go to college. The poor and other minority groups are being cheated, punished and ignored; jobs seeking Spanish speaking workers automatically keeps disadvantaged LEGAL citizens in the unemployment line. Illegal people should not receive favorable treatment over legal citizens. We should not discriminate by race, gender, age, class, etc., and we also should not exclude legal American citizens from work due to not knowing Spanish

      • First of all, while I’m sure this is an issue that needs to be addressed beyond a simple “just learn Spanish!” it cannot be called an unreasonable discrimination either. Speaking another language, no matter how you put it, is a skill and not a predestined characteristic. This kind of thinking displays a poor attitude towards language learning in general. Also, the statement that other countries do not “cater to English” or other languages for that matter, is simply ridiculous. In most parts of Europe you will not make it far without English; often even that isn’t enough. Even just to complete certain degrees, English is an absolute necessity. But maybe that is precisely the problem, in Europe at least one KNOWS this. We start learning languages in primary school (grade/elementary school?) but from the experiences I’ve read about on this site it seems to be a developement that is not being recognised and handled properly. American companies, of this I’m sure, will also be in need of new skills to stay competitive on a global skale – so of course language skills will be in much higher demand. If children aren’t being taught the skills they need later on, then of course they will be put at a disadvantage. Complaining about “catering to non-English speakers” will not change the current developement and the resulting rising demand of language skills in America. In the US there seems to be a great deal of negative feelings towards learning other languages. Many consider it anti-American, or as your article states “catering to other languages”. While it might be true that historically, in order for the great cultural melting pot that is the US, to find a common footing to grow together as a nation, it is necessary to have a common denominator, in this case the Enlish language, it should not serve as a reason/excuse not to give foreign languages the place in school curriculums and priority lists that their importance in todays world demands. Globalisation means that your country, as well as mine, will be affected by developements that go beyond national and language borders. It is unfortunate that todays work seekers find themselves affected by their lacking of a skill their environment did not deem relevant, but no law regarding “English only” will change the truth of a very real need for foreign languages.

        • Well the first thing I think you need to do is to realize that it is only logical for England to require English. Do you not realize where the English language derived from? England-English…does that not ring a bell? Research is key in establishing a valid argument.

        • However valid your point is regarding the benefit of being fluent in more than one language, you still fail to understand the point of this argument. Why is it that so many insist on trying to make this issue about racism? This discussion is and has always been about language discrimination. Yes it will beehove an individual to be bilingual, but only if that’s the choice that they choose to make for themselves, but for an American citizen to have their basic fundamental needs (such as employment) in jeopardy of extinction due to the influx of immigrants, and the catering to immigrants at the expense of the welfare of American citizens is absurd! And anyone lacking the ability to understand this is obviously ill-informed or just a person who needs to re-evaluate their sense of judgment, because your analogies seem to be misconstrued. For you to want to attack American citizens who are addressing an issue very critical to their well-being, which also infringes on their rights and liberties as an American, that is very disturbing. Who has a better right to attack a broken, unjust system, than the American people? No one has ever stated thus far that being bi-lingual is a bad thing, nor has anyone implied any hatred or dislike for bi-lingual individuals, or even “Spanish only,” or “Mandarin only,” or Togala only,” etc., individuals….the problem and frustration is with this broken system in America which allows certain companies to discriminate against an English only speaking individual, and deny them employment in the United States. Just because there is an influx of immigration, within the United States, which also changes the demographics of societies within the United States, still the constitution is the constitution, and the law is the law, and America still belongs to the American people, therefore why would it be fair to deny employment to someone who chooses to be complacent with their American language only, while living in their American land? Becoming bi-lingual is a personal choice, and also not an easy endeavor, and should hold no barring upon a citizen. The laws should NOT change to accommodate immigrants, immigrants should naturally adapt to their environment, which is America and the American language. And just for those who are ill-informed…ENGLISH IS THE AMERICAN LANGUAGE!

          • Yes this country was built on immigrants, however, this country has been established as America, and in America we have certain rules of conduct, certain laws, certain rights and liberties as American citizens, and one of those rights declare that NO ONE…which includes American citizens, fluent in their native English language, should be discriminated against due to their race, color, gender, religion, etc…..and language discrimination falls under this same constitutional liberty. And any individual that has been denied employment due to the lack of being bi-lingual, can and should take a stand against this madness, and take this complaint to the source (this broken institution that we call Congress, Government, etc.), and I for one will give my support 200%!

        • Zyquan, language is in fact a predestined characteristic. Just as you can’t control where you are born or what race you are, you can not control the language you are born into. As a matter of fact language is a huge cultural tie and is very significant in the formation of nationalism. Did you choose the language you were born into, if not than language is predestined. Right? Just think about it a bit more Zyquan.

  16. I will agree with what you said to the point that a multi-lingual person will get hired over a non multi-lingual person should the position/environment either require or benefit from it. That is the nature of business, supply and demand. in your example of the hospital the increase of Spanish speaking customers/patients in need of help is the demand and the bi-lingual employees are the supply. The bi lingual employee can do both Spanish AND English customers and you can only do English customers. Simply put, you cant do their job but they can do their job AND yours. The bi lingual employee is simply the better choice for the position.

    As for your statement of “The other countries do not accommodate English in most places.” I find it that English is probably the most accommodated for language out of all the languages. Try to speak Japanese in France or German in China.

    1: English is regarded as the global language of business, that’s pretty darn accommodating. Since its so difficult to learn there might even be a new language based off of English because of it for everyone to use, time will tell.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/03

    2: Every international airport in the world is required to speak only in English in Air Traffic Control and between pilots radios etc… What more are you looking for? World domination?

    http://www.proenglish.org/news/mainstream-media/24

    As a little side info here is some Extra less “known for” countries that have their populations that haf English Learned as a Second Language and how much.

    India – 232 million people – 23% of population

    Nigeria – about 79 million people – over 50% of population

    Philippines – Over 55 million people – 55% of population

    Germany – 46 million – 56% of population

    France – 23 million – 36% of population

    Pakistan – 18 million – 11% of population

    Italy – 17 million – 29% of population

    Sadly, It is pretty clear however that your post is racially motivated and basically a racially fueled rant with a bit of anger because you refuse to learn more then one language for whatever your personal reasons are. I also found it interesting that you believe that every single person at the hospital you mentioned that speaks Spanish is less experienced and skilled then every single person that doesn’t speak Spanish. I’ll never understand why people in this country complain about people coming from other countries and speaking other languages. Your family came here from another country too and I don’t see you speaking in Aztec or Apache, you brought and spoke your own language as well, just like the people you are complaining about. Such hypocrisy.

  17. I think this is an interesting discussion. My personal issue is (and one that many Americans my age, and older face) is the fact that while I have NO problem learning another language, I do not KNOW another language. Yes, I know SOME Spanish…but I am not fluent. Yes, I also know MORE ASL (which is rarely asked for on job sites). I have a Bachelor’s in social work, and am working on my Masters. And while I have some experience to add to my education, I am not bilingual. Which is definitely “needed” when applying for social work/social service jobs. I live in Maryland (and MD and VA has a VERY high rate of Hispanics).

    ***MY proposal is, if you want me to learn a new language, fluently mind you, all of a sudden at this age then PLEASE provide a FREE (or very discounted) program to do so. Everyone did not take Spanish in school. I took two years of French, most of which I do not remember. I’m Black, and while I am not “uneducated” or “low-income” (if that matters) I also did not know that going to school, furthering my education, and getting work experience STILL would not be enough to land even an entry level job. I would estimate that at least 80+ percent of the jobs that I am OTHERWISE qualified for ask for me to be “bilingual”…mind you my husband knows English, Arabic, AND Tygrinian (he’s Eritrean). He works in IT, so he’s “trilingual” just as many people are but what they really want are Spanish speakers so they need to keep it real on that front.***

    Basically, the NEED to speak Spanish pretty much hit us just a few years before the economy went down the drain. (If I’m wrong here, forgive me…I’m not that old, so maybe it’s been longer). But it seemed to have come out of nowhere. There is nothing wrong with saying Spanish speaking is a plus, but saying it’s REQUIRED. Unless the job is for a freaking translator, that is DEAD wrong, and indeed discrimination!

    • I am in total agreement with you, and if more Americans would open there mind and keep it real, instead of trying to be politically correct, then maybe we can get ahead on this issue and try to overcome its’ injustice. Let’s face it…is this issue any justice to those MANY Americans affected by this nonsense!? So why is it that when we as Americans step up to speak against this nonsense…all of a sudden so many find it fitting to criticize instead of understand? But of course, I’m sure that most of the commentators in opposition to this issue are either Hispanic or has Hispanic family members that refuse to adapt and speak English (the language of the United States).

  18. @Zyquan I think you make great points. I agree with much of what you said. I am not so self-centered (as many people assume most Americans are) that I think that it is not worthwhile to learn another language. I DO think that making another language as a requirement for jobs during a time when many people are doing all they can to get back to work in the first place is not right. Let’s put it like this, I will give you an example of why this doesn’t make any sense.

    It is possible for every company to hire at least one or more (depending on the size) person that speaks Spanish. I’m not saying there wouldn’t be complications with this plan, but bear with me. So if each company had a Spanish speaking “team” so to speak then what would be the reason to discriminate so heavily against English only speakers? Second scenario, just as companies offer benefits, educational incentives, etc. then why won’t some of these companies offer Spanish classes for employees that would like to learn a second language. I could go on with other examples that would help to alleviate this issue, and make it seem like less of a slap in the face to English-only speakers…

    The point is that’s not the case. The U.S. is not the oldest country, nor does it do everything right. I’m very well aware that English is taught in various countries. My husband had to learn English when he grew up in Eritrea and UAE…as did many of my other friends who are not from here. I get it. The thing is this is a fairly “new” thing in the U.S…just 5-10 years ago you were not “required” to know a second language to be considered for a job. It doesn’t effect everyone the same. People speak of the larger states such as CA, or TX but I live in MD, and the area I live in has a very high Hispanic population. I have NOTHING against my neighbor’s and have tried to learn some conversational Spanish, and will continue to learn on my own until I get my Masters. Will I be fluent? Maybe not….

    It’s not about whose fault it is, but in the midst of this economy it IS an issue. Maybe others care about the influx of illegal immigrants, while I “get it” that’s not my stance. My stance is I have experience, a Bachelor’s, and am pursuing my Masters and continue to see doors close in my face for even entry-level social services jobs because of me not knowing Spanish. 20-30 years from now, and certainly much further in the future this will not be a big issue. We will have BETTER REQUIRED courses for Spanish, to the point where most of our kids will be fluent. That is not the case right now, yes many people speak Spanish. Many of us do not. I’m one of the latter, and it’s not right for businesses to shut me out before I even get a chance.

    • These points that you are making are exactly my issues more so than not. However, we must also bare in mind that in states such as CA and TX, there is a very large influx of illegal/legal Hispanics, and the jobs that now require Spanish speaking only, are ran and owned by Hispanics, therefore the bigger picture is this…they have discovered a loophole that has not yet been properly addressed in the system that allows them to succeed with their discrimination, as a means of trying to establish a “Hispanic population,” which excludes other races, or makes other races a minority. This is the goal of these companies. I am totally aware of the racism within Hispanic companies, and their long term goal that they are trying to obtain. And it doesn’t matter if one disagrees with me or not because I live in California, and I know and associate with a lot of Hispanics, as well do my children, and we know first hand of the many racist Hispanics and their objective in the United States, and neglecting to address this issue is just another loophole that allows unjust and prejudice practices to succeed. But let’s get this clear….this state of CA (in which the Hispanics are trying to conquer) was founded by Native Americans, in which the Spanish invaded and took from them…thereafter, the Caucasians took it from the Spanish. So NO this state does not belong to the Hispanics, as they wish to claim, this state technically belongs to the Native American. But in reality, this country has come a very long way, and this country now belongs to every race, and no one race has the right to even claim that they have preferential rights to any state within this broken United States that we live in. So it’s high time for this nonsense to stop! And it’s high time for the American citizens that are being affected by this absurdity to stand up and fight this problem and make it fair for every one.

  19. let me make you feel better folks! try being a hispanic who was born in the U.S. legally yet was not taught spanish as a child because her parents wanted her to learn the primary english language to become better educated. my mother was already born in the U.S. therefore, spoke fluent english and spanish. my father however, was born in Mexico, yet moved here at the age of 27 to marry my mother whom he had courted for 2 years previously and didn’t marry her just for his green card. my father did it the right way and was not an illegal. my mother only wanted us to learn english to become better educated, therefore, we never learned spanish fluently. i’m 47 years old, have been working at the same job with a four year degree for 12 years and yet work with 2 other ladies, 1 who is still working on getting her legal paper work in order, who earn almost as much as i do and have only worked maybe half as long and have less education. as a child back in the sixties, i was a minority. it has now come fulll circle and guess what? i’m the minority in my own dept. again. i know for a fact these co workers have received welfare benefits, and whatever else our govt. has provided for them and their families. where is the justice for people like myself and especially for my father who has no more than a 3rd grade education, yet raised 5 children without the help of welfare with his job of 36 years?!!!

    • I sympathize with you. This is just further evidence of this broken “so-called” justice (injustice) in America! You and your father should not have to endure this nonsense…just as the rest of us American citizens, and hard-working citizens. This government is twisted and designed to neglect the American people, but support immigrants to the fullest! While I have no problem with supporting immigrants, because I believe that everyone, regardless of race, color, origin, or ethnicity, should have an opportunity to experience the “so-called,” American Dream, if that’s what they seek, but the American people are PRIORITY! PERIOD!

  20. Look at it this way. If you applied for a job as an analyst at the bank and they list knowledge of statistics as one of the requirements, is that discriminating against people who don’t know statistics? No, it just means that you cannot possibly do the job without this skill, because the specific job entails using this skill.

    Discrimination is unjust treatment. So if you didn’t get the analyst job because you have a foreign accent or because of your race or gender, that is discrimination.

    • I think you are way off my point in the article. The ground swell of illegal spanish-speaking immigrants is causing an unfair shift in employable people. Their huge numbers is causing many Americans who only crime is that they do not know Spanish to be set aside.

      Where nothing has been done to make an analyst with knowledge of stats have an illegal edge, the very nature of millions of illegal spanish-speaking immigrants now gives Spanish an edge over English and that is very wrong. If it was not through illegal means, then my argument may be diffrent but my argument is well submerged in the ILLEGAL issue. Why do people like you seem to not care about the millions of minorities losing jobs due to illegal immigration and the Spanish that comes with it? Are there some underlying racial favoritism going on. Latinos are the “in” group now, the white mans burden?

        • My problem is that ILLEGAL immigration and the Spanish that comes with it is causing an unfair shift of job requirements.
          Think of a little league basebal league for 12 to 13 yr old boys but one team sneaks in about 5 skilled 15 year old boys unto their team. Their illegally allowing stronger boys onto the team which will be at a big disadvantage to the teams that are following the rules. The team with 15 yr olds will beat up on the younger boys and win game after game on their way to The Little League World Series. That’s not fair nor morally right.
          It’s not proper nor ethical nor morally correct to allow cheaters to dictate policy over those who follow the rules. ILLEGALS are causing many legal minority citizens to be looked over for jobs and if Americans do not see the wrong in that, politics have replaced logic. Let’s be honest more Illegals equal more latino votes. This game for votes is costly to many legal citizens and looks like this game will be played to the detriment of those already on the bottom.

  21. Being able to write in four different languages empowers me to comment here: It is not a sign of weakness to speak only one language. To think, that that should be enough, is though. That being said I second the statements of the user calling himself “it is what it is”.

  22. American soldiers who died defending America during WW2 would turn over in their graves if they found out mexican illegals enjoy priority hearing by so called American companies who are in effect being given a free pass to commit treason against the United States, a crime punishabele by death at one time. Witness Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

    • It’s great to know that we as American citizens can identify with one another, feel each other’s pain, and realize injustice when it is presented to us and against us. Now the only problem is, what will we do to counter-attack this injustice?! What’s next…we become immigrants and the underprivileged in our own country? a country that allows us through our constitutional liberties, the right to be treated equally and fairly, without discrimination against us in any form, including language discrimination. It’s no different from any other discrimination, the only difference is the fact that these companies hide behind the deception that mandating spanish speaking only, or bilingual only is necessary in order for the company to function, which any person with common sense can understand that that is a bunch of crap! We are not in Mexico or any other country besided the United States, therefore we speak english in this U.S.A., and those that are non-english speaking individuals, here within our U.S.A., should therefore adapt! Granted, if a company chooses to prefer spanish or bilingual, I don’t have a problem with that preference, but to require it is BS people! Time to dissect these bogus companies through investigations to substantiate the idea that it is not mandatory for employees to speak spanish in America, unless they are attempting to discriminate against the American citizen, unless their preference is to accommodate, and patronize non-english speaking individuals only, otherwise there is no way that a company within the U.S consist of only Spanish-speaking employees only, in such that the english language proves unnecessary and invalid, other than a company owned by foreigners whom wish only to cater to their race at the expense of the American people, which is an even worse display of injustice, in addition to racism! How dare immigrants discriminate instead of adapt to the language of the land, especially considering the fact that immigrants are the very individuals whom constantly claim that they are always discriminated against and denied liberties within this twisted place of ours….so how dare these very people be so hypocritical! A revolution is definetly in order at this point. The American people should take a stand to fight for their well-being through employment within their native land. Why should we continue to allow immigrants to come over to our country just to try and take it over and cause hardship on its’ natives? Makes no sense people…..just saying

      • We NEED a Scopes Trial et al. 1925(Case set-up to decriminalize teaching evoultion in schools). We need willing individuals who have been denied jobs because they can’t speak Spanish to join in and file a claim of discrimination against the company, we need attention! Even if the case does not get to the Supreme Court it will show Americans the blatant discrimination. Hell we could even make a claim against states and the federal government for allowing this language discrimination and unequal protecton under the law. This need for Spanish is great patr due to the U.S. allowing illegal immigrants to over-saturate border states, the government is culpable in this sanctioning of discrimination of English speaking citizens. We need this to be taken up in the courts that is the only way to correct this madness. I want to be a part of any action for the cause and if there are others we need to move forward soon.

        • Indeed we do! We need more awareness and unity in order to form a movement to counterattack this injustice…Power to all people! Let’s do this my fellow American people. I can be contacted anytime via email at: d.roper67@yahoo.com. I’m always willing and ready to take this stand,and a stand is currently in the makings. Peace & love

  23. I’m a white American (yes! I still use skin color as a descriptor) living in Los Angeles and don’t speak fluent Spanish…can’t find work due to Spanish requirement..been 3 years

    • That is a damn shame! Only in America you are born to speak English but can’t get a job because you can’t speak Spanish. A class action discrimination suit against employers is starting to look plausable.

      • I agree! and that’s the only type of action that can fight against this sort of absurdity! If we don’t join together to fight against injustice, we cannot accomplish anything…nothing more than angry citizens venting

      • Mike,

        Your reasoning is correct. What some people don’t understand is that as one gets older it becomes harder and harder to learn a second language. Why in the world must I struggle so much as a US citizen to find a job, JUST BECAUSE I DON’T SPEAK SPANISH. I can’t believe this! Look, let me be very frank, if a discrimination suit is not sent to the “supreme court” soon, there are going to be serious riots in many of these quote unquote “Bilingual only cities” in the near future. What are Blacks in cities such Miami, Houston, Atlanta, etc are going to do within the next 5 years? All I can tell my Black brothers (and sisters) living in these biligual cities is this: If you are about to leave college and can’t speak spanish move out of these cities…why? BECAUSE YOUR NOT GOING TO GET THE JOB YOU WENT TO COLLEGE FOR.

        • Thank you Brotha….It’s totally great to hear from those who understand the reality of this situation. If this continues….the status of life for many black/African-American people will be total kaos and suffering….(as if we need anymore!) And we have a responsibility to ourselves to react to this injustice and try to make a change to serve all people. This world and the justice therein is supposed to be for all people…how is it fair for the American citizen to have to suffer through this sort of bull in America?! Yea….things are changing, but in the wrong direction! And the nonchalant attitude…and the anything goes policies that are in effect within this country is the reason for this nonsense! If America honored the constitution and upheld the rights of the American citizen…as it is supposed to within America…instead of caring more about catering to immigrants….this would cease to exist! Of course immigrants are people and equal to the rest of us…and they are entitled to the same liberties as anyone, but they have no right to go into another country and try to force it to adapt to their culture or language…and America has no right to uphold this nonsense! So it’s up to the concerned citizens such as ourselves to take a stand and fight against this.

          • The only stand we can take for now is write to our state senators, city mayors, even the president of “United States Inc” and let our voices be heard. The pen is mightier than the sword.

          • The Courts are mightier than the pen! I agree we should make this type of discrimination known to our politicians but we must fight harder. And that means filing class action lawsuits, equal rights law suits, right-to-work lawsuits and EEOC job discrimination claims. I am employed but for any person who gets turned downed for any job simply because he/she does not speak Spanish, they should file a claim with the EEOC on the grounds of discrimination. The Courts are the only way to get noticed, even if unsuccessful. A test trial is due.

  24. Well, you might be right about that. A job discrimination claim may be the only way for this problem to get front page attention. I wonder which state will be the first to entertain a claim of this sort though? My best bet is one of these three states: California, Texas or Florida. Maybe it will happen in 2013 who knows.

  25. I have had a 20 year career in HR and I am unable to get a job in S. California because I don’t speak Spanish. I am up for a position right now and I am totally qualified and the CEO was very impressed with my resume and then the question are you bi-lingual? Maybe if we stopped hiring illegals this wouldn’t be a problem. The service industry here does it all the time.We need to stop this maddness. If I don’t get the job this time I am going to file a anti-discrimination case. My 20 year career of hard work and paying taxes has come down to the dude sneaking across the boarder?? my parents immigrated from Ireland but they did it legally!

    • I sure hope you get the job, but if you do not, file that discrimination charge against that company.

      Seek out any Lawyers or anti-illegal immigration organizations that are ready to defend the American, english speaking worker. I will help find groups that are willing to take this to court as well and post in future blog. Keep me up to date and please feel free to contact me. If they want a war, let’s give them a war. What is happenining to you is happening to millions, we will have to force companies, states and the Feds into ending this discrimination.

      • We need to organize together and put forth whatever action possible to fight against this madness already.I am available and ready to take action at anytime. I’m researching our support resources, and I will get the ball rolling on my end, and I hope to have a chance to communicate with you and every other individual willing and ready to stand up and fight for our rights as US citizens.

  26. Siobhan,

    I really hope you get that promotion, but if you don’t please approach that case cautiously. Win or lose, this case could make or break your career. Just remember that you have a lot of people on your side and a lot of lawyers are willing and able to take on a case like this. I also immigrated to this country legally, from another english speaking country. I don’t see why I have to leave an english speaking country and migrate to America (an english speaking country) and have to learn spanish to get a job. Is this what America has become?

  27. An employer can require an applicant or employee to be able to communicate in the native language of non-English speaking employees or customers.

    Under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, an employer may not discriminate on the basis of, among other things, race and national origin. Joseph Chhim, an Asian male, submitted an application for the position of custodial supervisor with the Spring Branch, Texas Independent School District (SBISD) at a job fair in January 2009. At the fair, Chhim spoke with SBISD representatives, including custodial supervisor Ray Cardenas, who spoke to Chhim in Spanish to test his ability to communicate in that language. When Chhim told Cardenas that he did not speak Spanish, Cardenas asked him what language he did speak and where he was originally from. Chhim responded that he is from Cambodia and advised Cardenas that he did not think that the position of custodial supervisor should have fluency in Spanish as a requirement or preference. Allegedly, Cardenas told Chhim that he should instead apply for a position as a custodian because the custodial supervisor position “has too many requirements.”

    In early February, Chhim called SBISD to check on the status of his application. Administrative Assistant Maria Sanchez told Chhim that she had called him about an interview on February 6 and had left a message. Chhim disputed this contention because he does not have an answering machine. The interviews had already taken place, and the position had been filled through the promotion of Raisa Martinez, a Hispanic female fluent in both English and Spanish. Chhim sued SBISD, claiming that the failure to hire him based on his lack of bilingual capability in Spanish and English constituted unlawful race and national origin discrimination. The district court dismissed his claim and he appealed.

    On appeal, Chhim again argued that SBISD had engaged in race and national origin discrimination because it failed to hire him based on his inability to speak, write, read and translate fluently in Spanish, which he alleged was a requirement for the custodial supervisor’s position. The Fifth Circuit affirmed dismissal of Chhim’s claim, holding that although a language requirement could, under certain circumstances, be used as a “covert basis” for national origin discrimination, non-bilingual individuals are not a protected class under Title VII and a preference—or even a requirement—for an employee with bilingual ability does not constitute discrimination on the basis of national origin or race.

    In many instances in Texas, bilingual capability is an essential job requirement when employees, especially supervisors or managers, must be able to communicate directly with non-English speaking employees, customers or others. As long as there is no discriminatory intent and a job-related necessity for bilingual capability exists, an employer is entitled to require an applicant or employee to be able to communicate in the native language of non-English speaking employees or customers.

    • However valid some of your argument is, it is lacking in facts. Language discrimination is just as unconstitutional as any other form of discrimination, and the courts has and will rule in favor of arguments that are substantiated. The influx of immigrants is the cause for this “Bilingual requirement” nonsense, and the only reason why nothing has changed in regards to this violation against the American people is because no one has stepped up with the sufficient support and arguments to attack this nonsense! But it will happen very soon, and with enough of us united against this injustice, making enough noise, and getting the right attention from the correct sources….a change will come. This is America, so check your history because throughout history, time and time again, change has always happened when the right actions were taken. Nothing that is unconstitutional will remain if the people are brave enough to fight for justice. Therefore I beg to differ and I ask you to look out for change on the horizon. Just because you refer to a particular case in which the plantif lost, that only mean that he didn’t have the right support or defense to substantiate his claim, furthermore there are many supporters for this cause, many attorneys willing to fight against this injustice, and many ways to attack this issue and win! Thank You

      • THE REALITY IS THAT WHATEVER MAKES DOLLARS MAKES SENSE. YOU GUYS THINK THAT THESE FOR PROFIT COMPANIES ARE GOING TO STOP MAKING MONEY FROM EVERY FOREIGNER JUST TO HIRE STRICTLY ENGLISH SPEAKING EMPLOYEES? THAT IS RIDICULOUS!! THE REASON BILINGUAL EMPLOYEES ARE IN SUCH HIGH DEMAND IS BECAUSE THESE COMPANIES ARE RAKING IN BIG BUCKS FROM FOREIGNERS NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS MORE FOREIGNERS THEN THE USA THINK ABOUT IT …IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT WELL THEN LEARN SPANISH I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO AREN’T NATIVE SPEAKERS BUT STILL TOOK THE TIME TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE….STOP BEING LAZY AND COMPLAINING…FINDING A JOB IS ALL ABOUT HOW YOU MARKET YOURSELF SO LEARN SPANISH PUT IT ON YOUR RESUME AND YOU MAY HAVE A BETTER CHANCE!

        • First off “Scapegoat”, We don’t need your pity because you are a non-factor! Your decision to learn spanish is your business and no one cares! As an American citizen, it is our prerogative to either learn spanish, or not, and the point it that we are “American citizens, with a native language of ENGLISH”, and it is unconstitutional for immigrants or whoever to require us to speak spanish…no matter how you or any other individual feel about it. Therefore, as I stated before, you are a non-factor in our plight because obviously you are not affected by this ridiculous unjust situation. and it doesn’t matter what you feel because in the end…the U.S Constitution will prevail in favor of the American citizen…No, this is not the U.S. of Mexico! The influx of immigrants is a result of half-ass enforcement, and because no one has organized with the right force to make the Powers pay attention and realize the reality. So you just kick back and watch how your opinion becomes obsolete after the American people prevail against this nonsense!

          • Sorry, but you can never offend me, furthermore, what you claim is invalid anyway. Language skills are not the conclusion of our stance here, the gripe goes far beyond that elementary level, and if you were intellectually inclined to understand this situation, you would know that. This situation is not just about language skills, this is about discrimination, and the rights and liberties that are not being protected under the constitution, for the American people. So therefore, what will eventually happen is the regulation of companies that cater to immigrants at the expense of the American people. Laws will be enforced, that once existed and this U.S. will serve to cater to all people, as it should, as opposed to catering to immigrants, like some wish for it to be. And as I stated before….to expect, or to even desire for a country to cater to you just because you are too lazy or whatever to adapt to the country that you moved into…that’s absurd! And hahaha! to your “funny” comment about the fast food job, although that type of job played out in high school, but maybe you don’t realize that because that’s the job of choice for your kind obviously since its embedded in your head to even mention such a job….how did you arrive at that conclusion? Lol! Anyway….and as far as communicating with spanish speaking people because everyone speaks spanish…that’s not our problem as American citizens. The fact that spanish speaking people feel that they don’t have to adapt and speak English, and that we are supposed to cater to them by speaking spanish is their ignorance, and the only reason why certain companies has gotten away with this loophole so far is because no one has done anything to change it…but hold on because it’s coming. Becoming Bilingual is a personal choice,and it should never be a requirement. It doesn’t make a person any less intelligent just because they don’t learn a second language. First off, learning a second language in America has never been a requirement for anyone. It’s not until immigrants began to pour into America that this became an issue. And yes the world evolves….but never should it evolve to infringe on the rights and liberties of anyone, just for the sake of another. What about all the Spanish speaking people who refuse to learn English because they claim to be too old, or claim that English is too difficult? So it’s okay for them to know only Spanish, but not okay for American citizens to only know English, while living in their homeland? At least the American citizen who only knows English is in America…..but the Spanish speaking person who only knows Spanish is in America…not Mexico…so you do the math! And if you do think that this is okay, then you are as ridiculous as this situation, and you are obviously bias on the side of the immigrants because you either are one, or you have family in this category. Oh, well, whichever the case, it’s not okay just because of your prejudice. And as I said you can never claim that a person is not intelligent just because they don’t know another language, because there are many English-speaking only individuals that are far more intelligent than a lot of Bilingual individuals.

        • Sorry, but language skills are not a protected class, therefore someone can be discriminated against for not being able to speak the appropriate language. Furthermore, the US does not have an “official” language (and some localities have even passed ordinances approving of two or more “official” languages–Spanish almost always being one of them).

          Not to offend you, but it doesn’t sound as though you qualify for many jobs other than fast food restaurants. If everyone speaks Spanish, how do you expect to communicate with them if you cannot speak Spanish. Think of this analogy: if you were applying to be a secretary in a deaf-rights lobbying firm. Everyone in the office speaks ASL (American Sign Language) and no one speaks English. Would you consider yourself qualified for that job?

          • What if the job requires a person to be bilingual? Think about it. If there are 5 candidates for a job, you want to branch out into a different speaking community if possibly, you only need 4, and all of them except one can speak a foreign language you want to branch out into then why in the hell should I ignore a person better suited for the job and instead hiring someone who is the weakest link? It’s all about business. If you have a large Spanish community down in Arizona who will buy your product if you have someone who at least understands Spanish then why wouldn’t I want to find some bilingual people to break in that market? It’s business-savvy. Anyone who is busy crying and complaining about specific things put in place by a certain business are thinking more about their own problems than about what the business needs to do to keep out of the red and collecting more money.

            Hell, as a claimed Republican, it’s almost a travesty that you’re trying to regulate what a private company does. Republican Rand Paul has suggested that all Republicans stand by the claim that a private business can hire and fire who they want for whatever reason they personally see fit. What you are suggesting seems extremely close to a socialist ideology. Are you a Republican socialist? You have to explain to me how that works because I’ve never seen one.

          • Your petty, ignorant comments only confirms the idiotic that you are, and your so-called facts that you are attempted to bring across are invalid to say the least….so study your facts before you attempt to challenge someone. Furthermore, you are obviously one of the immigrants in which are foolish enough to believe that you deserve to be catered to when coming to America, instead of adapting and honoring the laws and the standards of life that pre-existed before you or your people arrived. Therefore, as I stated before, you are a non-factor anyway…and no one cares about your ignorant, small minded comments. Also, I am a sophomore, employed student, with an existing Masters in a profession that you probably cannot even spell…so bye to your ignorant, lame attempt at trying to attack my character because you could never do that. You would have to first be on my level to challenge my intellect, and that you are not…so get your life. Not that its your business, but I have my own company, and I have no reason to even waste my time with you.

          • First off, the issue is violating the rights of the American citizen by discriminating against an individual due to their native dialect. The issue is not, nor has it ever been any of that other. Language discrimination is as valid as any other discrimination, and it can be proven. And anyone claiming that something is wrong with an American citizen for being perplexed regarding this situation, which is causing some American citizens to be unemployed and oppressed, just because the U.S. has allowed this influx without regulations…that’s ignorance, and shame on that individual! Why is it okay for immigrants to complain and protest when they feel as though they are being discriminated against when certain employers, etc., require them to speak English, or banish them from speaking their language on a job, but when the American citizen does the same…all of a sudden people act as if they are wrong! What’s the difference!? Its straight out low-key racism and prejudice in the first place, most of the time, and other times when racism and prejudice is not the reason, its people attempting to cater to their own selfish, self-fulfilling agenda.

          • You have two choices. Either learn a second language or be unemployed. There is no honor in starving either. On the one hand, one is smart and has dignity, and the other is simply unemployed.
            Being narrow minded and rigid is not a good survival skill.

      • THE REALITY IS THAT YOU ARE ALSO A NON-FACTOR! LAZY?! HOW IGNORANT OF YOU TO EVEN COMMENT ON THIS BLOG WITH SUCH BS! WE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT ALL THAT BILINGUAL, HIGH DEMAND, MAKING SENSE CRAP! YOU ARE THE ONLY RIDICULOUS FOOL HERE FOR EVEN BELIEVING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CANNOT PREVAIL AGAINST THIS NONSENSE! AS I STATED BEFORE, THE FORCE IS COMING AGAINST THIS BILINGUAL REQUIREMENT NONSENSE…AND THEN YOU CAN WISE UP , SHUT UP AND BE ABOUT YOUR OWN BUSINESS, INSTEAD OF BUSINESS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU…SUCH AS THIS BLOG, AND THIS SITUATION! AND IN REALITY…THERE ARE MANY OF US WHOM ARE EMPLOYED, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT IS RIDICULOUS TO JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUFFER WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AND OTHER STRUGGLES JUST BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW SPANISH, IN THEIR NATIVE COUNTRY OF THE U.S.A….AND JUST WRITING THAT SENTENCE MAKES NO SENSE! SO PEOPLE SUCH AS MYSELF WILL FIGHT AGAINST THIS ABSURDITY…REGARDLESS OF YOUR IGNORANT OPINION, OR ANY OTHER HATER TRYING TO DEFEND THIS CRAP! THE AMERICAN CITIZEN DOESN’T HAVE TO LEARN SPANISH IF THEY DON’T WANT TO…IT’S THEIR PREROGATIVE! WHAT’S RIDICULOUS, AND WHAT’S IGNORANT ARE THOSE IMMIGRANTS WHO COME OVER TO AMERICA AND DON’T LEARN THE LANGUAGE (ENGLISH)! HOW STUPID FOR ANYONE TO EVEN MAKE COMMENTS TO SAY TO AMERICAN CITIZENS, MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY TO STOP BEING LAZY AND LEARN SPANISH! GET REAL! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE! WE DON’T HAVE TO CATER TO IMMIGRANTS HERE IN AMERICA! WHEN PEOPLE MOVE INTO ANOTHER COUNTRY OF ANOTHER DIALECT, AND THEY ARE TOO IGNORANT TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THAT COUNTRY, AND INSTEAD THEY ATTEMPT TO FORCE THAT COUNTRY, AND THOSE CITIZENS THAT DWELL THEREIN TO CATER TO THEM AND LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE INSTEAD…NOW THAT’S LAZY, STUPID, IGNORANT AND RIDICULOUS! AND LET’S BE REAL….DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE, THAT THE COURTS, SUPREME COURT, OR CONGRESS WILL FAIL TO UPHOLD THE RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, JUST TO CATER TO IMMIGRANTS?! GET REAL! JUST HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT TO WITNESS THE CHANGE THAT’S COMING ONCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEGAN TO FIGHT! AND YOUR OPINION IS TOTALLY INVALID AND UNWANTED SO BYE TO YOU!

        • From the standpoint of the Anglo-American, another person’s use of a foreign language may serve to identify that individual as being of foreign extraction or as having a specific national origin. Because language and accents are identifying characteristics, rules which have a negative effect on bilinguals, individuals with accents, or non-English speakers, may be mere pretexts for intentional national origin discrimination.

          Although Title VII [of the Civil Rights Act of 1964] does not specifically prohibit English-only rules, the E.E.O.C. has promulgated guidelines on the subject. The E.E.O.C. recognizes that “[t]he primary language of an individual is often an essential national origin characteristic,” and that an English-only rule may “create an atmosphere of inferiority, isolation, and intimidation.” Although an employer may have legitimate business reasons for requiring that communications be exclusively in English, an English-only rule is, according to the E.E.O.C., a burdensome condition of employment that is often used to mask national origin discrimination and that must be carefully scrutinized. Accordingly, the E.E.O.C. concluded that while a limited English-only rule may be permissible in some circumstances, no such rule will be deemed lawful unless the employer can show that it is justified by business necessity and notifies the employees “of the general circumstances when speaking only in English is required and of the consequences of violating the rule.” …

  28. I have no pity for those who aren’t bilingual. I put in the years in high school and college to become bilingual because I had foresight. I knew that the native Spanish speaking population would only increase so I made myself marketable. If you really think that all the business in the USA, a country of immigrants, should be conducted in one language, then you deserve to be turned away and see your job given to someone else who has the skills you do not.

  29. The ability to speak multiple languages has always been viewed as a great skill and talent to have and to list on your resume, but can being fluent in several languages cause discrimination or bias in the workplace?
    Multilingualism plays a huge role in the global workplace. As immigration rates increase and international business demands continue, so does the need for workers that can bridge those language barriers. Employers, especially those that profit mainly from international business, value bilingual workers who are able to perform the job function with dual-capabilities rather than paying two separate salaries. Bilingual people also hold the responsibility of being the liaison and representative of both cultures. The ability to speak a second language offers a wide array of career choices because bilingualism is celebrated and rewarded in many job fields. However, being bilingual in the workplace also has its drawbacks.
    Some employers illegally indulge in language discrimination, which means that they treat employees differently because of their native language or speech characteristics. However, there are laws against language discrimination. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects bilingual people from discrimination based on their national origin and race. For instance, your employer is not allowed to not pay you less for a lack of communication skills, deny you the ability to speak in your native language while at work nor are they allowed to deny you a raise for lack of English skills despite being exceptional in all other areas. This is considered language discrimination and it is not permissible under federal law. On the other hand, there is no law restricting employers from requiring all employees to be bilingual. Employers must be able to cater to all nationalities to make their businesses flourish in a diverse setting, thus, this requirement is not illegal because it would best suit their businesses.
    Language barriers have also been the cause of many issues at the office and have gotten in the way of productivity. One of the main language barrier issues that can occur in the workplace is culture and language misunderstandings. Many workers may not have a great understanding of the appropriate language and behaviors of the office culture, some of the things they say or do may be taken offensively. Though it’s their duty to learn the native language, their employer should assist in the transition because it takes time and patience to fully immerse yourself into a culture.
    If you are having trouble with the language barriers in your workplace, there are a few tips to assist you:
    Take an English as a Second Language, or ESL, course. This course will familiarize you not only with the language, but also the culture of America. Many of these courses are taught at a school or university, and typically last an hour or two. They will assist with your confidence in speaking English on the workplace, and help you build a safe working environment.
    Avoid using slang and jargon. Many words in your native language may not translate well into another language. To avoid any misunderstandings and problems, it is best to not use slang or jargon on the job.
    Get a co-worker to serve as your mentor or language coach. Having a language coach assist you in the culture and appropriate uses of certain words will help greatly in overcoming language barriers.
    Be patient. Learning another culture is not a simple task. It requires time, patience and trial and error.
    Being bilingual is definitely an important skill to have now that the melting pot that is America is rapidly expanding. Bilingualism allows people to preserve their culture and gain more job offers. However, there are employers and others who still believe that non-native speakers are inferior. Language discrimination is still prominent, but it is also illegal. Non-native speakers may face language obstacles in the workplace, but there are plenty of resources to help them overcome such issues. Therefore, knowing a second language is more helpful than harmful.

    • Your points are valid, and I agree with most, however, regardless of a specific law that prohibits the Bilingual requirement, the Constitution protects the American citizen from discrimination, and with the right defense team, and the right avenues…one can turn this situation around to meet the needs of all people. There are many elements within this Bilingual requirement game that these employers play that can and will be addressed and attacked, that will allow the American people to prevail with justice.

  30. o you even read what other people post?
    I’ve said it already, knowing English has been critical to get a job in Spanish-speaking country for decades.

    We could be whining all day long how English is such a poor language, with such a simple structure that often times doesn’t allow us to express a few ideas, but we adapt and those like me that can afford a proper education end up learning it.

    Yes, I don’t think knowing Spanish should be that important unless you will work in areas where exposure to it will be routinary, but unless you can start your own firm and start changing the pattern, the only thing people can do is adapt.

    For instance, I wish German was a more valued language, that way I could have learnt it from age 5 to age 11 like I did with English. Yet, the world doesn’t play by my opinion and my parents were smart enough to educate me in a language I would have to speak way more often.

      • Yes…being Monolingual is a choice, just as being Bilingual, and to be criticized is flat out ignorance! If you feel that being Bilingual defines you as a human being, or defines your intellect, then all I can say is, ” A mind is a terrible thing to waste!”

    • Well, here’s the real deal.

      Learn spanish and get a job. It’s painless…6 months and you talk “monkey”.

      As you refer to an European Language from the Castillian spanish…(blond haired blue eyed whites) as…”monkey”…BE SUPERIOR….IF YOU ARE…

      But, I must say it is not fair to make English speaking Americans second class citizens because they do not speak…*a foreign language*…wimpy white men in power….

      seriously..

      • Employers should be held accountable for discrimination…in all forms, which includes language! And being Bilingual has does not deduce an individual in their intellect or skills, so re-evaluating oneself just because they are not Bilingual is not the answer…..Justice for all is the solution!

    • Employers should be able to hire and fire at will. It’s called freedom. I realize this isn’t the case today — there are far too many people ready and willing to cry discrimination at the drop of a pin and far too many regulations making it difficult for employers to hire who they need. That’s why jobs are leaving the country so quickly.

      There are usually many factors when deciding who to hire for a particular position. Bilingual is a reasonable skill to have high on the list for certain positions.

      It would be wise to regularly review the marketability of your skills and upgrade them as appropriate.

  31. In my country everyone gets the education so that they will hopefully become trilingual. Swedish, English and then you get to pick between French, German and Spanish (sometimes Italian). It never really occurred to me that in some countries you are monolingual.

    • I agree, and the fact of the matter is that in high school, that second language that only some generations had to learn as a requirement of our graduation isn’t enough to become fluent in another language, and most of us grew up in a time when that second language consisted of more than Spanish…there were choices, and not everyone had the desire to learn Spanish as their second language, but if I’m correct in my observation, it seems that thanks to this influx, Spanish is the requirement for a second language now, to cater to the Spanish speaking immigrants who refuse to adapt and speak English. Now again I ask….who’s problem is that?, the American people, or the Powers whom has allowed this absurdity to flourish within states such as California, Texas, etc. I stand firm in my perspective that the American people should stand up and take action against this nonsense, even if they are employed, because what about all of the unemployed citizens whom are beaten down by “Bilingual/Spanish Only!” ? Again I say that many American’s cannot readily learn Spanish, just as many Spanish speaking immigrants claim that they cannot readily learn English, but by this being the U.S.A., it would be more just for immigrants to adapt and learn the language as they should, rather than causing hardship on the American citizen just because of the influx and the language barrier..IJS

  32. Yes I can see that happening in the EU. However the US has always been its own big island where everyone has spoken English or learned the language once they got here. I guess it depends all on where you come from in the states too. For the most part though everyone including most of Canada has spoken English. If we wanted to go into Mexico or into parts of S.A., then we learned some Spanish to get around. But it wasn’t a necessity if you didn’t travel down there. A lot of Americans sadly have never traveled outside of the country,( less than 30% of Americans have a valid passport!) so it hasn’t been a necessity although we do take a second language course in high school to graduate, I don’t think its enough time to learn the language though(I think it should be done in Primary school when the kids are younger and be carried out through high school). Besides the public school systems in the US are a joke. When you are put into classrooms with failures and others who do not have the same priorities as most children you run into major problems with the education process.

    I really feel bad for the OP because I was in the same position. I ended up leaving that hell hole. I also forgot that when I was employed there, I had a very good job, which also employed ILLEGALS as well and these were higher paying jobs. Guess who was in charge of the business and hiring process. FL is FILLED with nothing but wealthy Jews, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Colombians and so on. The Jews run the place though which is why it is so highly corrupt. Nothing against the actual Jewish religion but these are fake Jews who don’t even know how to speak Hebrew, lol

    • You are clearly not very informed on American History, for the US has not always been an “english island” where everyone learned English eventually when they immigrated. For starters look up some German history. And there are still natives alive and well, what if they decided they want to speak their native language only and not english?

  33. Requiring one to speak a foreign language seems to me to be a civil rights issue, but fat chance on winning. I would suggest, if it is at all possible, then move to a more English friendly section of the country such as Dubuque Iowa, Casper Wy, state of Maine is 98% white, just to name a few, it makes no sense to me why white people live in places like Miami which is less than 16% white
    Also, so far, English is not an official language, and I think we can all agree it should be. Those same people who want their employees to be bilingual are probably the one’s who are doing everything they can to prevent English becoming the official language of our country.

    • Case and point! This is the sort of madness that the American people are subjected to, thanks to this issue

  34. I was a McDonalds today and this particular McDonald’s had a sign stating it was hiring, to stop by on Tuesdays- A great big sign. This lady came in and asked for an application and this arrogant manager told her good luck-you and about 5000 other folks want one and we aren’t hiring??? This McDonalds literally had over 90% Hispanics working, I’m only saing 90% because I didn’t search the place for employees and I actually saw 100%-I did not hear ONE word of English the entire time I was there. I intentionally listened thinking that someone would have to speak to a customer eventually, but it was slow, so no English yet.
    I tried to order and was IGNORED while the Latino workers continued carrying on their conversations in Spanish. I was just plain shocked. I sat down to wait on a friend who would not have known where I went, and then observed the unemployed ENGLISH speaking lady being told-ever so arrogantly-
    they have no jobs. Let people start arguing this or that, calling me racist, blah blah blah, I SAW it with my own eyes and sat there completely disgusted until my friend showed up and I left-hungry. So, to those of you who tell me immigrants (legal or not)are only taking jobs Americans won’t do-explain this one. I felt so sick to my stomach and sorry for that lady, I thought of people on here too.

  35. Zita Wilensky loves to help people. In fact she is a foster mother to kids with special needs.

    Zita Wilensky, a victim of discrimination, says “Right now we have a little boy. We are in the process of adopting and he is learning delayed, but he is coming along great.”

    Professionally, Zita is not doing so well. She says, “I really do feel I was discriminated against and if I didn’t I wouldn’t be telling you.”

    Zita worked for Miami-Dade County for 16 years. The last two in the Domestic Violence Unit.

    Her file is full of letters of praise, but she began to encounter one major problem.

    She says, “I was referred to as the gringa, the Americana. Did they mean it in a polite way or a deragatory way? In some ways at times it was joking. But then it was like every single day and you know what? I have a name.”

    Zita was the only Anglo in the County Unit. All of her co-workers were Hispanic and she says they liked to play tricks on her.

    She says, “My boss presented me with an envelope one day when the anthrax was going around and told me “come here could you smell this? This just came in the mail.” Big joke in front of the whole department. Made me look like an idiot.”

    Then Zita was told she had to speak Spanish in the office. She was given 60 days to learn. After 30 days her boss disguised her voice and called her.

    Zita says, “So she called pretending to be someone who didn’t speak English. And when you could not communicate she fired you? Yes…that’s how it happened.”

    According to a county document, Zita was fired for transferring the call to the clerk’s office. Zita said she transferred it because she wanted what she thought was a Spanish speaking caller to talk to someone.

    Either way, despite her protests, after 16 years with the county, Zita was fired and replaced by an Hispanic.

    Now her question: can an Anglo be fired for not speaking Spanish on the job?

    Howard Finkelstein, 7News Legal Expert, says “The Florida Constituion says that English is the official language of the government. So you can’t fire someone simply because they don’t speak Spanish and you can’t fire them simply because they are Anglo. That’s discrimination. That’s illegal.”

    Howard says you cannot be discrimated against based upon national origin, religion, sex, and race. Such as blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, and on and on.

    and howard says that includes the treatment employees like zita receive on the job.

    “An employer cannot allow an employee to be subjected to racial slurs like gringo, or to be ridiculed or intimidated…thats called a hostile work enviroment and thats illegal.”

    Zita would like to go back to work for Miami-Dade County, not in the same office, but in a place where no kind of discrimination is tolerated.

    When we talked to a county official, we were told Zita was fired because she transferred calls improperly.

    They also deny she was fired because she was an anglo and she was not required to speak Spanish.

    Her boss just requested that she learn Spanish. But contradicting that, this letter from her boss says its a necessity that she speaks Spanish.

    Howard says if Zita sues the county, she has an excellant chance of winning.

    Zita says right now she simply wants to find a job.

    Problems don’t discriminate – so race to the phone. We’ll have an answer clear in any language.

  36. Yea you’re right, but the English language is implied within the U.S. Constitution, so even though it seems far fetched, prevailing against this situation is possible. To substantiate the violation of our rights and liberties, as well our civil rights, may be a complicated struggle, but with enough support and force, we can make a change. And many of us will agree that moving to another English friendly state is unfair, and the most of us refuse to cater and leave our own native state…we prefer to fight for justice instead. But you are right in your observation Denny, and I hope for you to stand with us against this injustice…Have a good day :)

  37. “Para Español, oprima el numero dos. For English, stay on the line.” By now, most of us in the United States have heard this message after dialing 411. For some, it is a welcome acknowledgement that they are part of the American fabric. At least phone companies realize that providing bilingual instructions helps facilitate more efficient phone service in a country with a number of Spanish speakers. That is a small and appreciated sign of being included in the American Dream.

    For some other people, it just pisses them off. “Why in the hell should I have to wait? This is America. Speak English.” Dude! Is an extra three seconds going to put your whole day in the ditch? “Well, we were here first.” Actually, before English, Spanish, or French was spoken here, it was Native American languages spoken on this continent. So, in theory, smoke signals came first.

    It always trips me out that America, the most powerful and magnificent nation in the history of the world, whose might was built by immigrants from all over the world, only speaks one language. Canada, our frozen neighbor to the north, is less populated than California and residents there speak two official languages: English and French. The Chinese speak Mandarin and Cantonese, each language with over 20 dialects all so different that they might as well be separate. (Or so I’m told. I don’t know. I only speak English and a little Spanish).

    In the former Soviet Union, Russians spoke more than fifteen different languages spread across 12 time zones. Most Europeans speak at least three languages so they can be understood anywhere they go in the EU.

    Born in St. Petersburg, Russia, my wife speaks five languages: Russian, English, French, Italian and, out of self-defense, Spanish. I watched her learn Spanish in three months. She reads, writes, and speaks it well enough to prevent linguistic misunderstandings or disasters with our Spanish-only speaking housekeeper and gardener. Our white clothes never come out pink. There is always someone able to receive packages from FedEx when we aren’t there. The leaf blower never starts at 7 a.m. outside our bedroom window.

    My stepson speaks Russian, English, and Spanish: Russian because his mother would kill him if he didn’t; English because he was born here; and Spanish so he could hang out with the “cholos” at his school.

    Being a third-generation Mexican-American and speaking English exclusively, I heard Spanish spoken by my relatives all my life, especially when they didn’t want me to understand what they were talking about. That was still a head start and easier than starting from scratch when, in my forties, I made a real effort to learn Spanish

    Knowing an extra language is like getting out of one tense, away from just one verb. For a Mexican-American who learns better Spanish, it feels like a first step to displaying actual personality. You are no longer a tourist holding out a handful of money allowing natives to take what they want. You no longer say things that sound like “I used to want a beer right now.”

    So why are we stuck cramming one “lingo” (sorry, Spanish again) down everybody’s throat? It baffles me that there is an “English Only” movement in the United States. To me, it’s like having a “Right-handers Only” movement.

    Now an argument can be made that there are some people who were born here, but don’t speak English well. Some have a regional accent so thick others can’t understand a damn word they’re saying. Have you ever heard a Mississippian asking for directions in Cape Cod, Massachusetts? It’s like watching a snake trying to pass an avocado pit. There’s a lot of straining and bulging eyeballs. Maybe there should be an English-verbal skills exam that everybody must take every three years like renewing a driver’s license.

    So what’s really behind the “English Only” Movement? Fear. Fear of being taken over and one day they will have to learn something different. Heaven forbid they would have to learn something new. Well, dudes and Arizonans, I’m speaking to you. I’ve got some news. You already have been taken over. You just haven’t gotten used to the idea.

    Actually, the country hasn’t been taken over. It’s been taken back. Right now, we are in the middle of the biggest wave of immigration ever in the history of the country. 85% of this current wave is from our next-door neighbor Mexico. What distinguishes this from previous waves of Mexicans is that it is happening simultaneously in every state. It is not confined to the West and Southwest. There are Mexicans everywhere. You can go to Iowa, South Carolina, Rhode Island, Michigan, or Kentucky and find growing Latino communities. Mexicans are now the largest head count of Latinos in New York City, moving ahead of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Cubans.

    In the late 1980s, I was living in the Tribeca section of lower Manhattan while making a movie for six months. When going out each morning for coffee and a newspaper, I kept noticing that there were a lot of Mexicans working in the area.

    You can tell which band of Latinos you’re dealing with by listening to the music played at full volume during work. If they’re playing Banda music — essentially German oompah music with too many jalapeños — you got Mexicans; probably from Zacatecas, which is like the Nashville of Banda music.

    Now, the most astounding fact is that more than 80% of Mexicans immigrants in the U.S. are under 25 years of age, the prime baby-making years. And y’all know how much them “Messi-cans” like to make babies. They are each going to have at least 20 kids apiece at the same time all over the country. Buenos Dias, Elmer. America, chinga que si!

    • Wow! Did you really just post such an unnecessary comment?! No one cares about such a comment! And just to correct that twisted perspective that soo many ill-informed people have…no Hispanic’s are not taking anything back because this country didn’t belong to them in the first place! Hispanics stole this land from the Natives’, then the Caucasian race stole it from the Hispanics. So NO this land does not belong to the Hispanics…it was a hostile take over for the Hispanic race as well as the Natives….so PLEASE STOP that nonsense already! You guys kill me! In reality, this land belongs to everyone, and there’s not ONE race with more rights than the next race….OMG! You guys need to get that chip off your shoulder and stop acting as if the world owes you something. If that’s the case, we can all protest that the African-American people are owed more than one can imagine…but do you ever hear about the African-American race attempting to dominate a state, etc?! How can a race claim that a particular land belongs to them,when in fact they stole it from another race to begin with?! I just don’t get it! And don’t get it twisted because my grandfather is Spanish, and Native American as far as that goes, but I just despise that nonsense that ONE particular race has more rights to a particular land than any other race…IJS! And why do so many commentators get it twisted and write about all the other unnecessary BS that doesn’t pertain to the issue at hand?! The issue is about the American People suffering with language discrimination just because of this influx of (mostly illegal) immigrants, and they choose to speak English only, which is their prerogative, in their own native country. There is no law to mandate one to be Bilingual, so therefore, regardless of ones’ opinion….it is not wrong or right to be Bilingual or Monolingual….so stop steering off the real issue and deal with the unjust nature of this issue, instead of trying to defend a certain race of people by defending those who violate the Constitutional rights and liberties of the American-English-Only speaking citizens

  38. It’s like there’s this fear that these “other” languages will “contaminate” & infiltrate the “pure American english language” and destroy it.
    (Hmmmn….racist symbols anyone?).
    Ironic that english is one of the most mixed-origin languages, full of words & influences from many different sources old & new.

    I was thinking the same thing about latin/french quotes….

  39. Having an official language would, in fact, cover up cultural identity as well as discourage immigrants whose native tongue is not English. It wouldn’t necessarily increase the percentage of Americans who can speak English, and it doesn’t make people who don’t speak English any less American than those who do. “English-only” laws are politically incorrect and biased against immigrants. Additionally, many feel that having multiple languages spoken throughout the country makes it interesting, diplomatic, and worldly. An imperative question that one must ask themself about whether or not to make English the official language of the United States is that, isn’t it better to learn and become familiar with languages other than one’s own rather than know only one language your whole life? It should be recognizable that different languages and cultures bring a uniqueness to our country. This particular controversy is simply a heated topic discussed within the government, however, it does nothing to solve the real conflicts that go on within our country.
    I chose to be part of the con side to this issue because I believe that everyone has the right to their own language. America, whether or not one wants to believe it, is a nation made up of immigrants. Those immigrants bring with them their customs and traditions, as well as their cultures and languages. Making English the official language of the US would be discouraging of learning to speak other languages, and upsetting to those whose native language is not English.

    • The solution to this issue has never been to prefer “English Only”. The problem is company’s that require “Bilingual Only”, which would be just as unjust to English only speaking American citizens, as “English Only” laws are against immigrants…what’s the difference?! And claiming that some Hispanics are too old to learn English is irrelevant because by the same token, many American citizens are too old to learn Spanish…that goes both ways. It is fair for any individual to maintain their own language and culture, however, one should also adapt to their environments, especially when they move into a country with a dialect different from their own…why would their even be a problem to learn the language of the land? I certainly would not want to be in Japan without learning the Japanese language. Why throw away your own language, just because it behooves an individual to adapt to their environment? Or, in your perspective, would it be more just for the American people to cater to these particular people whom refuse to adapt, and prefer the world to adapt to their culture instead…would that be a better solution for you?

  40. 6 Ways that Second Language Identity Can Be a Rare Opportunity for Fun and Experimentation

    Let go of who you are in your native language: Maybe you are a bit of a comedian in your first language. Maybe you are the one who tells side-splitting jokes and entertaining stories for hours into the night with friends and family. That is who you are in your native language but the key to learning a second language is realizing that your identity is not solid. Now that you are learning English, you are feeling stressed out because when you speak, you can’t tell jokes (yet). You are left with the question: if I am not a comedian, then who am I? Don’t try to answer this question. Don’t cling to your old identity. You are in a new country and a new culture. I know that this is not an easy task. It can be really scary when we no longer have an identity or an image to fall back on. But that is why language learning is such an incredible experience. It forces you to face new parts of yourself that you have never seen before. It’s all a part of the experience!

    Make space for who you are in your second language: If you are no longer holding on to who you are in your native language, you will have space to find a new “English learning” identity. Explore the English language and find out what makes it unique. Are there things that you can express in English that you can’t express in your native language? Finding these unique phrases can help you make friends with your new language and will allow you create a new identity around it.

    Look for ways to learn about the culture through the language: In English, we have a lot of expressions about time including “time is money”, “better late than never”, “on time”, “out of time” and “just in time”. If you are living in a busy US city like New York, you know why these phrases are so common. Yes, it’s stressful and noisy but it’s NEW YORK! It’s a city full of energy and passion and art and life! So learn the local phrases, find out what matters to the people in the culture and create a vocabulary and an identity that is a unique combination of your new location and you! Have fun with it and you will have a rich experience! Does the old you really belong in this new place?

    Remember that human connections are deeper than words: A lot of adult students of English feel stressed about their English learning identity because they think that they cannot be as friendly as they are in their native language. They feel that they don’t have the language skills yet. First of all, friendliness is not only expressed verbally. It is about the way that you carry yourself, the way that you use gestures, the way that you make eye contact with people and show your enthusiasm and interest. I have formed some of my most intense connections and most profound conversations using horrible grammar and clumsy pronunciation in my second language, Spanish. Did that lessen the quality of the connections I formed? No, it just made them different, perhaps more intense and even more fulfilling sometimes.

    Accept the present moment (every moment): So maybe you are struggling. You are at dinner with a huge group of native English speakers and you simply cannot understand what they are saying. They are speaking too fast for you. You wish you hadn’t accepted their invitation and you are thinking about leaving early and telling them you have a headache. Stop right there! Breathe and accept the situation. Accept the fact that you can’t participate in the conversation at this moment but also make a commitment to keep improving so that you will be able to participate next time. There is nothing like spending an awkward, silent evening at dinner as a motivator to work harder at your English.

    Recognize the temporary nature of your problem and look at the big picture: When you learn a new language you take a risk. If you are not interested in taking risks, perhaps you should learn something else. The real wisdom comes from knowing that while your new identity might be terribly uncomfortable and clumsy now because you can’t express yourself in the same way that you think you should, this won’t last forever. You are in a new country and you are gaining language and intercultural skills that will make you a much more interesting person in the long run. One day you will look back on those moments of anxiety with fondness. So change your thinking from “Wow, this doesn’t feel good” to “Wow, this is a little uncomfortable now but I am going to be a stronger person for it later.”

    English Language learning is an adventure! If you come to the US to study English and work, be prepared to form a new language learning identity. This doesn’t have to be a negative thing! Take advantage of this unique experience to explore new parts of yourself and stretch your limits! Good luck!

  41. Every job has requirements. What if this job required you to do business with Spanish speaking clients? Same as if a job required me to speak Vietnamese/Portuguese/Italian etc… because they deal with clients in those languages? As for the constitution, that has nothing to do with capitalism and the business world. Sounds like someone is just butt hurt because they didn’t get a job. If you are not qualified for a job, get qualified. Or don’t complain.

    • Your comment is very ignorant, and I guess ignorant comments come from ignorant people right? Butt hurt because I didn’t get the job? I have my own business, with no need to compete for jobs you foolish little person…lol! And please know more about the Constitution before you attempt to speak about it. And my stance here is clearly to address unjust discrimination against the American people….not to care about catering to immigrants who come to America,but neglect to adapt to the language, but expect for natives to cater to them….sorry, but I think not! What are you butting into this discussion for? Because you are obviously either one of those in which we are speaking on, or you are defending them….either way it doesn’t matter because you are a non-factor anyway…so peace out!

      • The solution is not to relocate and run from the problem here in America, the solution is to correct the problem. And I’m assuming that your comment wasn’t intended to offend,and no offense taken, however, the Rosetta Stone is advice that you should be giving to individuals refusing to learn English in America, not the other way around.

  42. Businesses have unique and particular needs. They bring in human resources to help achieve their defined goals. If you don’t have the required skill set, then maybe that company isn’t for (If you’re not willing to learn it.) Now if you find it becoming a reoccurring theme and you’re missing out on many opportunities then perhaps you should choose another career, or geographic area. I’ve struggled to make myself as desirable as possible to employers in my field, and it’s been incredibly difficult. But once they see that you’re someone who recognizes a weakness and retools, I believe you’ll find more doors opening. Good luck, and I HIGHLY recommend Rosetta Stone for learning Spanish.

    • Maybe you were not jumping to any conclusion, but you were obviously attempting to be offensive, but nevertheless, your comments are irrelevant. And if your stance is what you keep posting at me…then why are you even on this blog? You should obviously be tending to business that concerns you because you are obviously opposed to this struggle. Furthermore, telling a person to apply for other jobs since they are obviously not qualified for the Spanish speaking job is also invalid because you have no idea about what you are talking about. And look a little deeper into the Constitution before you keep attempting to check someone. You should understand what the Constitution implies before you think that you are correct. Please don’t attempt to match wits with the little attempted slug about misunderstanding your foolish “so-called” logic, because you have none! And obviously some of us don’t give a damn about learning Spanish, so save your energy for a blog that is relevant to your life because clearly this one isn’t…or maybe you should just go and get a life! But you are correct when you say that this is one big melting pot….so why don’t some individuals stop attempting to dominate and make it theirs? We don’t need your confirmations on this blog…if you’re not a part of this struggle, then why bother?!

  43. I wasn’t jumping to any conclusions! If the job entails you speaking Spanish and English, then Spanish and English you must speak! Also, bilingual is code speak for being able to understand English and Spanish, not that you have to understand two languages! I might see how you didn’t understand that.

    This has nothing to do with anything race related at all. I know lots of people who know who speak lots of languages. Just because you’re in the United States doesn’t mean you have to speak English! or Spanish! or anything really. I don’t know that much Spanish, so I only post what I know. And that is very little! Also, I do not expect to get a job that requires me to speak Spanish! I’m not remotely qualified – I know just enough Spanish to get my face slapped :)

    My point is that if you’re not qualified for the job, you’re not qualified. If it says you have to be bilingual that speaks English and Spanish, then so it is. Don’t go griping about the constitution (which says NOTHING about what language(s) you speak, etc.) Being in the United States does not preclude you from even speaking English, despite the efforts of some in the US. Its a melting pot — of ALL people! That is what makes us a great country! So, if you can’t speak Spanish, go learn it :) Just don’t

    • Lol! Ignorant and invalid as always! As far as being Anonymous…that was only because I forgot to sign into my account, otherwise, there is no need to be anonymous…you Yankee fool! Furthermore, your comments are irrelevant, and so are you, therefore there is no need to even entertain your ignorance any longer! You will be the dummy, looking stupid when this is all said and done! And if you really believe that the American people cannot prevail in this situation…you are even more ignorant than I thought! And as far as my company is concerned…..I’m sure that my company is incomprehensible to you anyway, so no need to even go there. Backspace, delete!

      • Keep your Spanish and your ignorant comments because we could care less! And if you really believe that there is nothing that the “American” people can do or say…you are truly more ignorant than your comments! But I’m not mad at you, or those others with your hidden hopes and agendas, praying and hoping that nothing will be done to stop this madness….there’s nothing wrong with hope….but hope only brings about results when the motives are righteous! So sorry that you are mistaken…..:) smh! Lol!

    • Hi droper, what do you do again? Do you split atoms? Do you work at the International Space Station? Your a Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician? Joking aside, it always comes down to survival of the fittest, Darwins theory of evolution, The person with the most skills and abilities will ALWAYS be two steps ahead of monolinguals, lol, I used to be full of hatred and anger, then I woke up one morning and had a moment of clarity. I just said “I cant push a button and make all these people and languages leave America” so what did I do? I got Rosetta Stone, 2 yrs later im fluent, and now im working on the accent part. My paycheck has almost tripled due to learning this new skill. It all comes down to money, cash, and pursuit of happiness.

  44. If you work in a restaurant where the majority of the clientele is Spanish-speaking, are you going to ask those customers to learn to speak English or you simply won’t serve them? Hell no, you wouldn’t be in business very long. Owners and managers adapt to customer needs, as the customer is what fuels the company and pays the bills. I guess what I’m saying is suck it up, stop being discriminatory (reverse racism is still racism), and understand that in a country where there is no official language, there are also no official rules. Find a job where you can communicate with your customers and stop whining about a non-issue. LEARN SPANISH!! AMERICAS DE FACTO SECOND LANGUAGE! ITS HERE TO STAY! NOTHING THAT YOU PEOPLE DO OR SAY IS EVER GOING TO CHANGE IT!! for the Anonymous fool, what business do you own? In what city? maybe you sell a couple of items over Amazon.com and you say you own a business! lol

    • This controversy goes beyond discrimination, and the other comments that some of you post, and it’s clearly not comprehensible to those of you that are too busy defending your race or culture, instead of just being a righteous human being! Therefore there is no need to go any further with this particular discussion with some of you because it is irrelevant to the cause. I only converse with those that are affected, and those that are passionate about defending the rights and liberties of the American people against unjust practices…anyone otherwise is a non-factor, and is therefore deleted! The End

      • Please do not compare USA to Canada. Canada does not have millions of illegal Spanish speaking immigrants cramming into its society every year. It is the Illegal issue that is the problem. Legal citizens are being forced out of jobs due to the heavy influx of illegal immigration whose language just so happen is Spanish. I hear no complaints about mandarin and China Town, and Italian and Little Italy and so on because those immigrants groups came to America legally. Also Canada’s history is different than Americas, French and Britain rule is why Canada has French and English, America was never ruled by Mexico, part of southern states were property of Spain. It is foolish to compare nations that are so different. And as a Black who people were raped of their language, culture and land, its the principle of the matter. Although I do speak Spanish and a little Mandarin, I sympathies with the many Americans who do not and the many who never had a chance at even a good English education, let alone Spanish.

      • Mike, you always mention illegals, there are 53 million hispanics in America of which 12 million are illegal. What about the approximately 40 million LEGAL hispanics who have the best of both worlds who are bilingual? Obama got reelected due to the hispanic vote and to vote you need to be a U.S. citizen Another thing, I hate it when black people fight with latinos, Spain NEVER owned a slave port in Africa. Alot of black people don’t know this. Last summer I went to Argentina and I never saw a SINGLE black person, this is a direct result of Spain never messing with Africa. Yes, your right that blacks had their history raped, If the great Dr.Martin Luther King Jr. was alive today do you think he would approve of any discrimination towards any ethnic group regardless of their legal status? Last summer I went to Brazil, Brazil was the last country in the world to outlaw slavery in 1888. There are alot of black people in Brazil but being black means nothing, there is no stupid racial divide like there is here in America. Its a true disgrace that Americans have not will probably never be able to get that disgusting racism that will always exist in our society. The thing that people dont understand is that hispanics are not like italians who threw there language away in just one generation, I know hundreds of “italians” who dont speak a single word of italian, just look at the show jersey shore. Hispanics will never throw their language away, thats like asking all black people who speak ebonics to take accent reduction classes, its never going to happen. Like the gentlemen who wrote earlier, its never going to go away, no word that I say is going to change it.

        • Kobe, You had the audacity to jump into this debate on defense for your Hispanic race (with the chip that a lot of you have), then you had the nerve to try to throw an attempted slug by associating ebonics with the African-American race?! You’re obviously a racist idiot, fronting like you are a voice of reason…get real!! Just to check you where you need to be checked…and yes I am an African-American speaking ebonics, or whatever you wish to call it…and I’m proud of it! First off, ebonics is not just a black thing because some of all races have, are, and will continue to try to jump on our bandwagon and be like us with the ebonic slang, and many other things that we do, so please don’t attempt to attack with your petty “so-called” insults because they are invalid! You must be out of touch with reality….so I suggest you look around and check for all the people, including HISPANICS that are trying to be like us African-Americans with our ebonic slang! We have always been, and will always be the envied race…and you, as well as your comments are irrelevant! No one cares about Spanish or Hispanics being here to stay in the first place! LOL…are you serious!? Stop being a racist, trying to throw insults, and pay attention! Do you really believe that screaming that “Spanish and Hispanics are here to stay”, disturbs us in some way? (other than the fact that some actually feel that it is okay to be here illegally). How stupid! I’m sure that most will agree with me when I say that most of us are not racists, and are not seeking to rid ourselves of the Hispanic race….we only want for Hispanics to get the chip off their shoulder and stop with the BS that this land belongs to them, so they’re taking it over, because this land does not belong to them, so let me suggest an American history course. Furthermore, no matter how many Hispanics invade…they will never take over…no matter what they say or do! No “ONE” race has ever succeeded at taking over, and they never will. So you and your other compadres’ do us all a favor and save the unnecessary ignorance. This land belongs to all people, and the most of us want justice for all people, instead of these hardships as a result of this illegal influx of immigrants! There are many American citizens, without the desire to learn or speak spanish (and they are well within their rights), and they are being affected by this problem, and the bottom line is that this is “THEIR” own native land! And what kills us all are those immigrants whom actually have an entitlement complex, and act as if they have the right to be here illegally! I actually saw on a news report, two Hispanic girls holding up a sign saying “Undocumented and unafraid”. WOW….WHAT STUPIDITY! And by the same token….what stupidity to act as if the American people need to cater to them! Get real, and get over yourself because it will never happen! Wise up, and gain some common sense and common decency, because the most of us are fair, just people, and we want to protect the rights and liberties of all suffering, oppressed people….most of us don’t have hidden agendas for our own people to take over, and to hell with the rest! So why don’t you go and be nosy on a site that’s for you. Maybe you can find a site strictly for Hispanics, crying about this land belonging to them….plotting their hostile take over. Good luck with that..:)! Sure many of us African-American people have a particular chip on our shoulder as well….but it is well justified! We have had to struggle and fight for our rights and liberties, that was supposed to be ours…being that we are all supposed to be equal within this great big melting pot…right?! Our chip is against the racism and the oppressive, inhumane abuse that we have been subjected to for many centuries…strictly stemming from envy and hatred! Our chip is not just because we have an entitlement complex, and therefore we want to dominate and take over. Sounds like a little bit of a Hitler mentality to me…IJS. We African-Americans’ are just as proud of our race, our culture, and our heritage, but you don’t see us attempting to take over the world…because it’s ignorant, and will never happen anyway! Regardless of the plight of the Black/Brown/African-American people, we are still law-abiding citizens, and we are not attempting to take over and make this the United States of Africa! Have a blessed day! :)

          • First off You Black Cuban Loser…I am a Black woman…furthermore, you nor your people could ever hold a match to me or my people….so stop being a HATER! Your comment about Black people getting the short end of the stick is just as ignorant as you are, because even though we have been an oppressed people since the beginning of time…we still prevail and rise above …just as we are far above your ignorant A%@! You are such an ignorant being, and you should be in school trying to gain some education instead of trying to be a part of something that you are obviously too ignorant to comprehend anyway! In reality….not that racist, ignorant world that you live in…but in reality, there are more Hispanics, and other immigrants in jail than you give credit for, so check your statistics…or do you even understand what that is? And the fact that many African-American brothas in jail, has no barring on African-American men….it’s strictly racism and a part of the plan to divide, delete and conquer….something that your black ass should be well aware of…or did you actually believe that you are in a better position than the rest of us African-Americans are?! They give a damn about you just as much as they give a damn about us……so you really need to check yourself idiot! And you also need to check reality because there are more African-American entrepreneurs, entertainers, and many other well-to-do African-Americans than there are Cubans on any given day! And as far as the ghettos are concerned…where you come from, there are nothing but ghettos….and here in Los Angeles, there are more HIspanics living the ghetto lifestyle than African-Americans anyway! Immigrants are the class of people coming over here to America to live off welfare (including CUBANS!) so you are wrong as always…furthermore you are a non-factor! You dare to speak about Black people being disgruntled and having resentment…what stupidity! If we do harbor any of such, it’s strictly due to what has been done against us, not because we are inferior in any shape, form or fashion! You are more inferior than any African-American could ever be! You are the immigrant…look at your country! Are you serious to be on this site trying to diss Black people, you Cuban…get real! And we love to speak our ebonics, and yes it is good for us…that’s why so many races try to jump on our bandwagon….so just stop being a HATER! Even though it’s well understood why you hate us so much…..and we know how great we are, that’s why we keep shining and laughing at those haters such as yourself because throughout all of your hatred and racist perspectives…still you could never be us or compare to us! And you immigrants are the ones’ here scuffling, trying to grab onto any job that you can…whether it be fast food, gardner, etc….so just how successful are you guys, since you want to throw figures out there, and attempt to degrade us and diss us! We are far beyond you or your ignorance, so stop being a hater because you can’t be one of us, and dismiss yourself because no one cares about your ignorance! The End!

          • Furthermore, you Black Cuban Loser, you can’t even write in the correct English format, so for you to try to diss us….first you need to learn how to speak and write correctly, then come at us…LOL, what a loser! By the way, ebonics is a choice, part of our culture..you know the one that everyone is always trying to copy-that one, but proper english is something that we all know, we are American Natives, unlike yourself, and we were taught in English dummy! So speaking ebonics is a choice for us, it’s slang, and anyone who choses to speak it has a right to because it is a thing within our culture because we say so! It’s ours and we created it…so don’t hate just because you are an outsider and don’t understand! It’s the way that we communicate and clown with one another, so mind your own business! And by the same token, Black people can switch up and speak proper English whenever it’s appropriate, so please just STOP because you make no sense! What about you…can you switch up whenever you please, or is your misspellings, bad grammar, etc., your reality whether you like it or not? So sad for you to be so miserable, but maybe if you stop being a racist hater, you might be blessed in some way…good luck!

          • LOL, you inane droper , You can’t stand the facts, black people always get the short end of the stick, it’s not my fault that in over 400 years blacks(americans) still cant get their $#%^ together, you point out spelling because you know the facts struck a raw nerve, is this a doctoral dissertation or is this an informal chat? Here in Miami all black people live in ghettos such as Liberty City.

            At midyear 2011, there were 4,777 black male inmates per 100,000 black males held in state and federal prisons and local jails, compared to 1,760 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 727 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.
            Source(s):
            http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

            So there are more latinos in jail or blacks? hummmmm, and sorry, african americans who speak ebonics can not switch to proper english, are you too stupid to google which race has the highest incarceration rate? Im black cuban and successful, droper you sound like a coward. my cell is 786-837-9882 if you wana chat, no insults no hanging up, just conversation.

          • I should define what I mean by “ghetto blacks.” I do not use this term to define all black people. There are many, many black people in America who live peaceful, law-abiding lives. They contribute to America in a very meaningful way. I am not referring to them as ghetto blacks. But there is a sizable percentage of the black population that remains in “the ghetto.” Ghetto blacks are those who are a burden to society and decent, responsible people of all races. Ghetto blacks are those who have dropped out of school, have numerous illegitimate children with several “baby-daddies,” pack our courts and fill our prisons because of rampant crime, etc. Ghetto blacks are those who will not work and are content to live on welfare and other social programs. These people will stand in line 8 hours with thousands of other ghetto blacks in 100 degree heat for a spot on the waiting list for Section 8 housing but won’t fill out a job application as we witnessed in Atlanta last year. Ghetto blacks are violent, sullen, ignorant, disrespectful, immoral, profane and full of hatred. They possess a true hatred of all white people. Ghetto blacks ridicule black students who make good grades as “being white” and blame their own failures on whitey, the man, Jim Crow or slavery. Ghetto blacks idolize gangstas, pimps and rappers covered in tattoos and bullet wounds. They ridicule other blacks who choose to be responsible, educated and contribute to society as “selling out.” Ghetto blacks are led by race pimps like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan whose message of hatred further poisons the empty souls of ghetto blacks. Ghetto blacks are the 6% of the American population (black males) who create over half of America’s violent crimes. Ghetto women are not much better. They are vicious, violent, ignorant and poised to attack anyone at any time who crosses their path. All of these describe what I refer to as ghetto blacks. If you are black and reading this, you will know if you are a ghetto black or not.

            Because of the corruption of government, ghetto blacks have been allowed to live off of American taxpayers without producing anything for generations. Welfare, social programs affirmative action, Section 8 housing, etc have turned you into violent,worthless moochers who are a tremendous weight upon productive Americans. The reward we receive for feeding, clothing and housing you is ignorance, violence, hatred and crime. We, the responsible, law-abiding Americans have had enough. From this day on, we are calling you out and informing you we are going to change your world!

            We are tired of being nervous when our families are in close proximity to groups of young blacks. Experience teaches us we are only a second away from being attacked for no reason other than being white. We are tired of our women being attacked, raped, and murdered by you. We are tired of having to worry when our children go to school if they will be the next victim of a gang attack. So we are arming ourselves out of necessity. We are arming our wives and children to protect them from being on the receiving end of a violent attack of dozens of ghetto blacks against one of us. Here is only the latest example of the reward decent, responsible Americans receive in return for taking care of your every need
            Every day, more and more decent Americans are fed up with living in fear of you. An increasing number of us are now carrying guns to protect ourselves from you. Because you have been protected by politically correct liberals in America who will not bring themselves to criticize your sub-human behavior, the rest of us have finally had enough. In the past, white Americans and decent blacks have simply chosen to flee and leave the inner city ghettos to you. But we have learned that where we go, ghetto blacks will soon follow to rob, rape, attack and kill us. Our patience is up. We will run no more. One day soon, you will attack the wrong cracka and a lot of you will go to the morgue. You will then know it’s on and you have pushed us too far!

            Decent America is ridding ourselves of the disgusting socialists in government who continually rob us to pay you while calling it “spreading the wealth around.” It’s my wealth and I will work tirelessly to elect those who will fight for me to keep what I earn. As for you, you have the right to work or starve. Personally, ghetto black America, I don’t care which it is. You are my problem no more. I am your problem. Once the money train is stopped, you will do as you have done in the past and riot, burn and loot your ghettos. Go ahead, enjoy your fun one last time. But the funds to rebuild your ghettos are gone. If you try to enter and destroy the neighborhoods of decent, tax-paying Americans, we will defend our homes and our families with a wrath you’ve never seen. You will lose.

            I have said many times over I believe each race can achieve equally. I also believe in judging everyone by their actions and not the color of their skin. I don’t like trashy people of any race so don’t waste your time calling me a racist. It doesn’t affect me at all. I’m not a racist, I’m a trashist. And ghetto blacks are pure trash! Pure, violent ghetto trash. The only people holding ghetto blacks down are white liberals, race pimps and other ghetto blacks. I accept no blame for slavery and/or Jim Crow laws. Wasn’t me and it wasn’t you!

            Before the politically correct liberal whites and the “defend at any cost” blacks attack me as not being accurate, here is a simple search of “blacks attack” on Youtube. These disgusting, violent videos pop up every week.

        • droper, you are a disgruntled black man, the reality is that black people always get the short end of the stick, there are more black people in jail as a percentage than any other race, half of all murder victims in america are black men, I know cubans who came to america 3 yrs ago on a raft with there clothes on their backs and now they own their own trucking business making well over $15,000 a month, and black people have been here for generations and they are stuck living in the ghetto living off welfare, so of course there is anger and resentment, not all black people are ghetto and speak ebonics, but sadly alot do. Why cant all black people talk like oprah, obama, morgan freeman, montel, allen west,? Ebonics is not a good thing, try talking ebonics in a job interview, You can say what you want, im a black dark skinned cuban and i dont say finna, if I were to give a tv interview i wont be needing subtitles. Only ghetto hispanics try to finna speak ebonics, in england and belgium and holland black people speak so proper, but here these africans wanna discriminate against me because I dont speak ebonics

          • For years I have been trying to get Blacks to understand that Hispanics from all nations simply hate Blacks in America. And you and other Hispanics responding on this post are demonstrating that. Blacks are always told that we Black and Browns should stick together, but only naïve Blacks follow that call to action. Hispanics however do not adhere to that request. The NAACP will speak on behalf of Hispanics but LULAC is only concerned with Brown issues. Hispanics are riding the coat-tails of the leg-work Blacks put in. Blacks have died not only for Blacks but for all other minority groups in America. And what do we get for setting the stage for Latinos ability to grow in the US, we get you, HATERS! You are stereotyping an entire group with your Ebonics talk. 90% of the Blacks I know talk pretty good English. I know you and many other Latinos look down on Blacks, you think you are better but remember many of you Cubans have Black blood in you. Oh yeah Cuban, African Americans spent $1.2 trillion in 2012. If regarded as a nation-state African Americans would represent the 14th largest economy in the world, and the largest nation on the African continent. I hope Blacks wake up and see there was never a union only one group using the gains of Blacks to advance their cause. And your facts are wrong, US prison population is Whites: 129,467 (59.4 %), Blacks: 80,962 (37.2%) and Hispanic: 76,092 (34.9%, projected to bypass Blacks in the next 5 years). Proud of the fact that Latinos will become the majority in 30 years, also be proud that you are catching up in record numbers in prison, Latinos will surely be the majority there as well. So come off that high and mighty attitude.

          • First learn how to spell to converse with me You Idiot! And read the post from my brotha Mike@UsneakydevilU, and read up on the statistics, because you are clearly in need of education and research! And as I stated before, your attempted display of statistics regarding African-Americans in prison, etc, is just as ill-informed as it was the first time you so stupidly gave us your ridiculous, unfounded, “so-called” statistics. Black Cuban, I will never converse with you off of this site, therefore your phone number was unnecessary! And as far as the other ignorant comments that you made…it was expected from such an idiot such as yourself! You are just frustrated because you are indeed inferior to us, so as I said before…stop HATING, you racist fool! And guess what….you very well should be afraid, because I guarantee you that your cowardly ass would not speak on all the garbage that you speak if you were present before me…or any of my sistas or brothas! Let me repeat….you are the weakest link, and you could never come up against us in any shape, form or fashion! You could never catch up to our level, no matter how much racist garbage you talk! That garbage that you speak only makes me laugh, because while you are so angrily directing your hatred toward us, your “so-called” well-to-do Cuban people that you so ignorantly attempt to boast about are still riding on our heels! You are still living on the heels of our successes and victories…you fool! If not for the intelligence and greatness of us African-American people, you immigrants would still be living in the poverty stricken misery that you call your country! If not for our contribution within this world…i.e. inventions, innovations, etc., many luxuries, and liberties would fail to exist. So get your dumb ass facts straight because at the end of the day, after you are done ranting and raving with your jealous hatred….you are still beneath us…and you could never hold a match to us, as I stated before. You are the kind of evil, racist pig that we has, and will stomp all over because you’re garbage! Now try that on you so-called “Black” Ignorant Cuban! To bad that you actually are claiming your race because I know many Cubans, especially “Black” Cubans, and none are even remotely as ignorant or as stupid as you are! As a matter of fact, you are an embarrassment to them because you are not coming from a perspective of a human-being, rather it be black, white, or spanish….you are coming from the perspective of a miserable, low-life loser, whom hates the African-American people because you are scared of our strength, our talent, and our power. So just shut up and take a back seat like you are supposed to and kiss our entire Black A%@! Power to the People!

          • Yo droper, lmao@ da inane loser. Even Mike gots da facts right, 37.2% black prison population, 34.9% Hispanic, which number iz bigger? let me go put on muh motha f$%kin rocket science hat on! Sadly you seem ta suffer from inferiority complex, ah dare you ta come down ta Hialeah Florida, 95% Cuban, an’ jive all dat banana boat jive. Almost everyday in public uh black american comes up ta me speaking ebonix, da second he realizes dat be dark skinned black but not one o’ dem dere peeps pop out o’ they head. da Haitians an’ Jamaicans dont gots dat mad stupid inferiority complex, only black americans is always sayin “its cuz im black” droper, you be uh pathetic black separatistYo take uh chill pill an’ realize dat you will never win, you wuz put on dis here earf ta clean other peeps kicks in da hood otay buh-weet. Da Endz

          • AHAHA! You wish you could speak ebonics correctly don’t you HATER!? And by the way…my BROTHA MIke got it right because he actually stated the actual numerical statistics….I on the other hand did not state any numbers. Does that mean that I didn’t know the numbers? Obviously I did, otherwise I would not have corrected you about it LOSER…but a person with your lack of intellect would not misunderstand that…so I ain’t mad you. And being a few digits lower only confirms the racist abuse against Blacks…..doesn’t make Hispanics any less criminal than Blacks are…because we all know that’s a lie! Furthermore, why are you still here?! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Now go kill yourself…exactly where all racist belong! Loser! LOL

  45. It’s not discrimination, your country’s official heritage languages are Spanish and English. Infact, Spanish is a compulsory course in your highschools. I am from Canada, and French and English are our official languages, and although most of the time English is good enough.. some jobs require French because we do business with the French community, just as I am sure business services the Mexican Community. Ever watch Lou Dobbs? According to him your country is 90% Mexican , illegal alliens are taking over the planet USA :) (Thank God he’s over) but I digress.. Be careful that you yourself are not being a tad discriminatory in your indignation over being asked if you speak Spanish..

    It’s only discrimination if you are denied a job on the basis of race when clearly you can speak what ever language they are asking for.

    • The scenarios that you present are irrelevant because those scenarios are not the issue. Furthermore, this discussion with you is irrelevant and unnecessary. You are obviously against this movement, so the question is why are you even posting your comments? They are not needed, and most of us don’t care about the comments anyway! I started out with intentions on conversing with what I assumed to be intelligent individuals regarding this matter, but now that some of you have posted very ignorant and invalid comments…there is no need for this nonsense because this is not what we are here for. I am far beyond ignorance, and my bad for even entertaining this garbage in the first place! So this concludes this ignorance, and may you find some happiness in your unhappy life, and please find issues that actually pertain to your own life…..Have a good day…The End!

  46. f an employer has need for a bi-lingual or multi-lingual person and that need is part of the job description, it is no different than someone not being accepted for a job than requires heavy lifting if they are unable to do so. There are many jobs that would require more than one language. If an employer is being discriminating in hiring someone who meets the requirements to do the job, that is not “discrimination” in a bad sense.

    Would it be discrimination to turn down a male applicant for a ladies room attendant? Or a female for a men’s locker room? Or a 90 pound weakling for a job that requires constant lifting of 80 pound items? A person in a wheel chair to be a fireman expected climb ladders and carry people out of burning buildings?

    Jobs may require certain qualifications without being discriminatory.
    reply
    Reggie☮

  47. Speaking Spanish is not an accomplishment limited to those of Hispanic origin. Anyone can learn to speak Spanish, whether you’re Irish, German, Bolivian, Chinese or Eskimo.

    They are not saying they will only hire someone who is Hispanic; they are saying they will only hire someone who speaks Spanish. Anyone, including you, could learn that particular skill.

    So no, this is not any form of illegal discrimination. You have no legal case against anyone. They can deny a job to anyone who does not have the skills they need or desire.

  48. Spanish and English should be made the official languages of the United States. Too bad the toads in Washington don’t seem to care much. By the year 2043 whites will no longer be the majority. 100 years from now everyone is going to be able to speak Spanish. Like the dude who posted earlier, Spanish is here to stay forever, there is nothing that I or any of you can do about it. Whats the point of going through life filled with anger, hate, rage? It takes a human being 2 years to learn a language socially and 5-7 years to learn a language academically. I know Mexicans who are illiterate in their own language and they were able to learn English socially. How is it that a “pure” 100% white or black american is not capable of learning a word in Spanish other than ”pollo loco”

    • That comment that Spanish is here to stay is ignorant for you to say, just as it was ignorant for the other person to say. No one cares about Spanish being here…that was never the issue in the first place! The issue is the fact that Spanish immigrants are moving into a country with the twisted notion that this country should adapt to them, instead of adapting to their new environment, as normal people should (not to call Spanish immigrants abnormal), but to expect for the world to cater to you and your culture instead of adapting is abnormal. Furthermore, this world is a melting pot, and NO, this world is not all about Spanish and Hispanics, so whites and blacks don’t have to learn Spanish if they choose not to. The solution is to fight for all to be treated equally…the way that the world should function. And justice is on the horizon in regards to this controversy, regardless of the misguided, invalid comments of those whom seem to believe that nothing will be done to correct this problem. All I can say is just sit back and pay attention!

    • King… I am pretty certain you are a racist. You don’t care for Whites nor Blacks. You like so many who have responded do not consider or care about the fact that these are ILLEGALS causing legal citizens to have to assimilate into the ILLEGAL immigrants language. Now being Black it bothers me that my ancestors were stripped of their culture, their land, their religion and their language to have their descendents now be forced to learn another language which is pushed through by illegal representation. And if this country in 2043 is overtaken by Mexicans then what good will it be since they flee from Mexico. Mexico is crap so the USA will be too. Yeah you all win, right? The great US of A will become Northern Mexico. GREAT!

  49. Being Bilingual is a skill. Something THAT IS LEARNED! you’re not born knowing english fool! so its not #@$%& up DISCRIMINATION like discriminating against something people are born with like race. and btw those people coming into this country are pretty &%@!$% desperate for a better life.. the reality is you’ve had everything you’ve needed to succeed within walking distance your entire life and could not possibly imagine what its like to not have those opportunities.

    OPEN YOUR *$#@!*& MIND!
    and may you find peace.

    • Steven, you use F bombs to make a point, that makes you the fool. You defend Spanish and dont know English. Did you choose wher you were born? What country? Your parents? NO to them all. You are born into a culture, right? So since that is the fact, then you are born into the language spoken by that society, your national origin.

      So because these people are desperate why don’t Mexico fix their corrupt government? Why don’t you people who pray so hard for America to erase its Southern border to allow all Mexicans in, pray and fight for Mexico to create a better society for its people. That would be better than collapsing the USA on the weight of millions of illegals steadyly coming over. And what about those poor and desperate Chinese, Iranians, Russians, Indonesians, Haitians, Africans, S. Americans and so on who want a better life? Let them in too, right? You people will not get it until the ship is taking in water and about to sink due to the overcrowdedness on our economic and social systems. Then and only then will I be okay with you standing on the sinking ship shouting your F bombs. And “everything…walking distance”, man, that ghetto I grew up in beg to differ. Americans are desperate too.

      • I totally agree with you, but it seems that people such as Steven just don’t get it! They seem to think that this issue is about what goes on in Mexico, or Canada, etc., I guess anything to steer off the real issue because they rather defend this illegal influx of immigrants due to their obvious hidden agendas, racism, etc. The bottom line is that this is the U.S.A., and the citizens of the U.S.A. has every right to have a problem with any unjust practice that negatively affects them, especially when the problem subjects others to hardship and struggle….especially when it is the immigrants coming into our country, attempting to inflict this chaos upon us, instead of being grateful to be here and trying to get along with all people in peace, they come here illegally, and create the most chaos…..talk the most crap! What in the hell are they talking about?! But it doesn’t matter because many of us concur on this issue and we will continue until justice prevails

  50. Steven White….you fool….English is a language that is taught even within the womb, in the U.S.A. So naturally, an American born citizen, with parents speaking the language of the American (English), will automatically speak English as their primary language…just as a Hispanic born in Mexico, with spanish speaking parents…they will naturally learn spanish as their primary language. What are you talking about you idiot!? Mind your own business! Peace out!

  51. *oops, my bad, chooses, not choses….but I guess that’s ebonics too, huh Black Cuban?! In reality that’s just a typo, and at least I have the education to realize that and know how to correct it.

    • I agree because English should be declared the official American language, instead of just being implied, and we should definitely be more vigilant about this illegal immigration madness because it affects us all

  52. So much anger here! lol, the top 5 most spoken languages in america should be made the official languages, the more languages the better, there are some questions that i wish i knew the answer to, why isnt english the official language of america? why doesnt our govt build a 30 foot high fence across the entire southern border? we can spend a trillion dollars in iraq but we cant build a fence. lol,

    • Black is beautiful, not like pathetic losers like you who suffer from inferiority complex, At least I know what country Im from originally, what country are you from originally? Let me guess you dont know, You racist black nazi, your the black KKK, I bet you spend your life inside a public library wishing you owned the computer you are using! How inane you are! Im a veteran, I fought in Angola, have you ever fought for your country? Probably not, you coward racist, My ancestors come from the Congo, where do yours come from? you pathetic unemployed monolingual, get off your fat $#@ and get a job!

    • BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! So miserable and angry…but I totally understand “Black” Cuban. All I can say is to pray for comfort to accept that in which you cannot change….no matter how much you hate. I’m sorry that I must have rattled your cage too much…but facts are facts! :) Now the Racist Nazi calls others Black Nazi’s…..SMDH! LOL…what a pathetic reality you must live in…Get your life and get over it already! Backspace, delete!

    • And by the way…this $1800 computer that I send you these comments on, are owned and operated by me….a Black woman! And the one suffering from an inferiority complex is obviously the one hating on the Black race, such as yourself! Black men has obviously put so much fear into you, that you hate the entire Black race! Well that’s just too bad! Leave them the f%@# alone, and maybe you can be delivered from that fear. Because regardless of your hatred….we are far beyond any…as you say “inane” being, and we spend our time succeeding and rising above idiots such as yourself…while you waste your time hating on us, and being jealous of who we are, and what we represent. We are people who don’t give a damn if you are living or dead….so as I stated before…BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! The End….PERIOD!!

  53. Oh…..now I get it, you “Black” Cuban! You hate us so much because one or more of my Black Brothas obviously whooped your ass a time or two right? LOL! Now I get it…Wow, too bad for you, but on the flip side…There is not one shred of reality to any of your racist garbage! We could care less about your racist anger, so why are you even on this site, since you hate us so much?! Because as I said before, you, as well as many others only hate us because you can’t be us or beat us! But that’s your misfortune, not mine…..nor do I care about your inferiority complex! All I can say is for you to get over it because there’s nothing that you can do regardless of what you say or do! You fool…we have accomplished more in the 500 years that we have been in this country than your people can even dream of…so please don’t go there, making me generalize the Cuban people because they don’t deserve to be blasted just because of your dumb ass! And just to clarify….the so-called statistics or whatever that garbage is that you are speaking, relates to your Cuban nation more so than any American…whether they be Black, White, Chinese, Spanish, etc. Having thousands of babies and living in substandard conditions, with substandard values and a substandard way of life is an element of third world countries…such as yours, which is the main reason why so many of you flee your country to come into my country…whether it be legally or illegally! So sorry, but you are just angry and stupid! So keep your ignorance for those other racist because you come off as nothing but stupid on this site! Having multiple illegitimate babies? Are you for real?! You must have us mixed up with the Spanish, because they clearly have many more kids while living in poverty, than we ever will even think to! On any given day you will see a Spanish mother with a baby walking beside her, one in a stroller, and one in her belly…and not to talk against the Spanish race, because as I stated once before….I’m all mixed up…..although I am African-American…bottom line! But I said that to say that I have nothing against the Spanish, Hispanics, Cubans, etc…..my only problem is with these racist haters, as well as this idiot who calls himself a “Black” Cuban, although he clearly hates Blacks! So I’m only stating my observations and facts about the Spanish because this Black cuban idiot is actually attempting to put us down and slander who we are…..therefore I had to bring reality to him, even though it may be a bit harsh, because he deserves it! Now those of you Spanish and Hispanics citizens whom are not a part of such ignorance,and whom are not racist and Haters…you all should clearly understand that there is no offense intended to you…my comments are only for assholes such as the “Black” angry Cuban! And in conclusion….racist cowards always hide behind things, such as blogs, etc…they never stand up and confront others with their hatred because they know that it would be a costly mistake! And talking about people living in fear of us?! Get real you stupid jerk….do you know how many other races are terrorizing the world with these killing sprees, bombings, etc…..Blacks don’t go to schools and kill innocent children/people, as a matter of fact, Black people are the least to fear, and only you and other stupid racist people feel that way, but only because of their conscience! Just because people kick back and hate us..that doesn’t mean that we are sitting back hating in return, because we are far beyond that level of ignorance! We have better things to do…like giving you HATERS even more greatness to be mad and hate us for…lol! People live in fear due to the strange, evil, murderous nature of many other races, which does not include the Black race. So again I say, get your facts straight before you foolishly post nonsense! The only people that are living in fear of Blacks, are those ignorant idiots whom hate Blacks, such as yourself! You only live in fear because you know that you hate us….therefore you are always suspicious and in fear of us because you automatically believe that we are plotting to retaliate against you! As if we don’t have anything better to do besides caring about you, the way that you spend your time concentrating on us and hating us. You are wrong again! We would never waste our precious time concerning ourselves with people like you because you are a non-factor! Furthermore, you and your kind of fools live in fear of us…not people in the real world…as I stated, only those whom has wronged us, and those living with a guilty conscience live in fear of us…and I ain’t mad at them! LOL….there’s a little ebonics for you….ahaha! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!! :)

  54. “Black” Cuban….so envious that he can’t even leave us alone and be about his own business right?! Wow….how miserable life must be for you Cuban….SMDH! BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL, STRONG AND AMAZING! WISH it were you huh Cuban?! AHAHAHA!

  55. I should define what I mean by “ghetto blacks.” I do not use this term to define all black people. There are many, many black people in America who live peaceful, law-abiding lives. They contribute to America in a very meaningful way. I am not referring to them as ghetto blacks. But there is a sizable percentage of the black population that remains in “the ghetto.” Ghetto blacks are those who are a burden to society and decent, responsible people of all races. Ghetto blacks are those who have dropped out of school, have numerous illegitimate children with several “baby-daddies,” pack our courts and fill our prisons because of rampant crime, etc. Ghetto blacks are those who will not work and are content to live on welfare and other social programs. These people will stand in line 8 hours with thousands of other ghetto blacks in 100 degree heat for a spot on the waiting list for Section 8 housing but won’t fill out a job application as we witnessed in Atlanta last year. Ghetto blacks are violent, sullen, ignorant, disrespectful, immoral, profane and full of hatred. They possess a true hatred of all white people. Ghetto blacks ridicule black students who make good grades as “being white” and blame their own failures on whitey, the man, Jim Crow or slavery. Ghetto blacks idolize gangstas, pimps and rappers covered in tattoos and bullet wounds. They ridicule other blacks who choose to be responsible, educated and contribute to society as “selling out.” Ghetto blacks are led by race pimps like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan whose message of hatred further poisons the empty souls of ghetto blacks. Ghetto blacks are the 6% of the American population (black males) who create over half of America’s violent crimes. Ghetto women are not much better. They are vicious, violent, ignorant and poised to attack anyone at any time who crosses their path. All of these describe what I refer to as ghetto blacks. If you are black and reading this, you will know if you are a ghetto black or not.

    Because of the corruption of government, ghetto blacks have been allowed to live off of American taxpayers without producing anything for generations. Welfare, social programs affirmative action, Section 8 housing, etc have turned you into violent,worthless moochers who are a tremendous weight upon productive Americans. The reward we receive for feeding, clothing and housing you is ignorance, violence, hatred and crime. We, the responsible, law-abiding Americans have had enough. From this day on, we are calling you out and informing you we are going to change your world!

    We are tired of being nervous when our families are in close proximity to groups of young blacks. Experience teaches us we are only a second away from being attacked for no reason other than being white. We are tired of our women being attacked, raped, and murdered by you. We are tired of having to worry when our children go to school if they will be the next victim of a gang attack. So we are arming ourselves out of necessity. We are arming our wives and children to protect them from being on the receiving end of a violent attack of dozens of ghetto blacks against one of us. Here is only the latest example of the reward decent, responsible Americans receive in return for taking care of your every need
    Every day, more and more decent Americans are fed up with living in fear of you. An increasing number of us are now carrying guns to protect ourselves from you. Because you have been protected by politically correct liberals in America who will not bring themselves to criticize your sub-human behavior, the rest of us have finally had enough. In the past, white Americans and decent blacks have simply chosen to flee and leave the inner city ghettos to you. But we have learned that where we go, ghetto blacks will soon follow to rob, rape, attack and kill us. Our patience is up. We will run no more. One day soon, you will attack the wrong cracka and a lot of you will go to the morgue. You will then know it’s on and you have pushed us too far!

    Decent America is ridding ourselves of the disgusting socialists in government who continually rob us to pay you while calling it “spreading the wealth around.” It’s my wealth and I will work tirelessly to elect those who will fight for me to keep what I earn. As for you, you have the right to work or starve. Personally, ghetto black America, I don’t care which it is. You are my problem no more. I am your problem. Once the money train is stopped, you will do as you have done in the past and riot, burn and loot your ghettos. Go ahead, enjoy your fun one last time. But the funds to rebuild your ghettos are gone. If you try to enter and destroy the neighborhoods of decent, tax-paying Americans, we will defend our homes and our families with a wrath you’ve never seen. You will lose.

    I have said many times over I believe each race can achieve equally. I also believe in judging everyone by their actions and not the color of their skin. I don’t like trashy people of any race so don’t waste your time calling me a racist. It doesn’t affect me at all. I’m not a racist, I’m a trashist. And ghetto blacks are pure trash! Pure, violent ghetto trash. The only people holding ghetto blacks down are white liberals, race pimps and other ghetto blacks. I accept no blame for slavery and/or Jim Crow laws. Wasn’t me and it wasn’t you!

    Before the politically correct liberal whites and the “defend at any cost” blacks attack me as not being accurate, here is a simple search of “blacks attack” on Youtube. These disgusting, violent videos pop up every week.

  56. The study and knowledge of another language has a great deal of influence on the economy of the U.S. and on international trade.
    Each year, 200,000 Americans lose out on jobs with business because they do not know another language.
    Additionally, one third of all the corporations in the U.S. are either owned or based abroad.
    One out of every six production job in the U.S. depends on foreign trade.
    One half of the top profit making companies on Fortune magazine’s “500″ list are foreign controlled.
    Four out of five new jobs in the United States are created as a result of foreign trade.
    The majority of American employers, according to a national survey, consider the command of a foreign language a useful skill.
    Fifty percent of all the jobs for the 21st century have not been created yet. What is known is that communication will be central to the majority of these jobs.
    In NC alone there are over 1,000 international firms. The United Kingdom, Germany, Japan, and France have the largest number of firms.
    According to the Kiplinger Washington Editors (1996), the Hispanic share of the workforce will increase by 25 percent by 2010. Asians, around 50 percent. Minorities will keep moving up the corporate ladder in the next 15 years. Managers who know how to deal with a diverse workforce will have an edge.
    “The workplace of tomorrow is a world of many cultures and languages …with new forms of global commerce we can’t even imagine today” (Kiplinger Washington Editors, 1996).
    Bilingualism…

    Has a positive effect on intellectual growth.
    Enriches and enhances mental development.
    Leaves students with more flexibility in thinking, greater sensitivity to language, and a better ear for listening.
    Improves one’s understanding of his/her native language.
    Gives a person the ability to communicate with people s/he would otherwise not have the chance to know.
    Opens the door to other cultures and helps one to understand and appreciate people from other countries.
    Gives a student a head start in language requirements for college.
    Increase job opportunity in many careers where knowing another language is a real asset.

    • Its funny that you mean Zimmermann, that guy is a scum $##%, but trayvon martin was a gang banger, his twitter name was “No Limit Nigga” , trust me, im not making this up, google it and find out. He assaulted a bus driver, was suspended 3 times, had stolen jewelry in his backpack, dont get me wrong, zimmermann should die in prison for murder, but trayvon wasn’t exactly a beacon of light.

    • Doesn’t matter what type of person Trayvon was….he did not deserve to be killed by an ignorant, racist murderer! Regardless of his criminal past. You don’t know what type of lifestyle he was subjected to, therefore no one knows why he had his particular behavior. Furthermore, look at all the millions of criminals in this world….do they all deserve to be murdered just because they are not beacons of light? Especially being a young man….he didn’t even have a chance to be rehabilitated because his life was cut short by an idiot!

  57. Oh…you are in Florida “Black” Cuban?That figures…just another racist. I guess either you are a relative or a supporter of Zimmerman right?! LOL! But one thing’s for certain….we can go to Florida in the midst of the Cuban population, or anywhere in the world, and still remain with the same stance….because we are ‘ABOUT’ it! And something as ignorant and irrelevant as you are could never pump any fear within anyone…no matter what race, creed or color! Are you serious with the threats?! AHAHAHA! Good luck with that! Peace Out! The End!

  58. I’ve grown up in a state where most of the newer jobs are given to “bilingual only” candidates. Fortunately, because I’ve pursued higher education, I won’t be penalized for my lack of a fluently Spanish tongue but still, my heart goes out to all those Americans who are being discriminated against (just because they don’t speak Spanish or Hmong! ).

    When I get married and have children, I’d like to introduce them to other languages at an early age. As an American, I’ve been aware that many Europeans can speak three languages (the main combination seems to be: English, their mother tongue, and French).

    For these two reasons, I’m going to ensure that my children are introduced to several other languages besides English. I haven’t figured out exactly which ones, but I’m leaning towards:

    Spanish (this one is a must, being an American), French, and German.
    This would make them a quadlingual (they’d be able to fluently converse in English, Spanish, French, and German).

    Have you thought of doing the same? What combination of languages do you prefer for your child?

  59. It’s amazing how easily children can learn languages – the younger they are, the easier it is! One of my aunts was proactive and spoke German to my cousins from day one. Growing up bilingual helped them learn more languages (French and Spanish in high school).

  60. Why do so many of you whites want to speak non-white languages? (I’m not just talking about Spainish. I know Spainish is a white language but in the US is used by non-white south of the border folks) I see this all over. I see whites in a business and a mexican walks in that speaks english, but rather than speak english to him they want to show off and speak spainish. Let me let you in on something…I ain’t impressed ! I was in a Chinese restaurant a while back, and the Chineese waitress says, “can I take your order?” The white man replies, “wang chong chong ting poo poo” I thought to myself “what a dumba$$, she speaks english”. For some reason it made that white man feel good that he might have impressed his chinese waitress. Why are whites so eager to impress non-whites? This is the white man’s country! I will not cater to the mostly illegal mexicans flooding here by speaking their language to them. I saw a white man in home depot last week making a feeble attempt to speak spainish to his hired illegal help. The mexican responded in english. I thought “how stupid” here the mexican speaks english, and the white man wants to speak spainish. If you want to learn another language for educational or other legitimate purposes, great. I train dogs in German so no one else around here is able to give them commands. To try to learn another language to make life easier for mexicans, or to show off at the chinese restaurant is silly. Whites need to grab a hold on to their culture and stop reaching toward the non-white cultures. Not trying to start a riot, just wanted to offer my humble opinion .

    • Earl, I cannot be mad at your perspective because as Americans…whether we are Black, White, or whatever, we should be outraged at the idea of catering to one particular race…especially when they move into our U.S. That is pure nonsense! Adapt to new environments or go back to your own country. What makes the Hispanic race any better than any other race?! People need to wake up

  61. I really can’t understand how some people learn languages just for fun, or for the rare occasion when they travel somewhere for fun and want to make an impression with the locals. To me, that’s a lot of work for very little reward, or it’s a lot of wasted effort just for enjoyment. The way I see it, we have time for enjoyment once our work is done, but our work if far from done!

    We live in the USA and as such, English is just fine. NO WAY am I going to teach my kids Spanish. I want them to regard the hispanics they meet as foreigners, not as one of us, so hearing gibberish when they talk solidifies that view and makes them less inclined to get involved. No disrespect meant to Spaniards and other Spanish speaking Europeans. I respect your culture but we don’t travel much to your areas so that’s the reason that applies in your case. In America, 95% of Spanish speakers are nonwhite.

    Having said all that, my kids are blingual out of practical necessity. My wife’s first language is Hungarian and so it’s important for communication for the kids to speak both English and Hungarian. We’d never teach them a new language just for fun, or to possibly broaden their job prospects. I’d rather live alone in the wilderness than have to appease hispanics to make a living. I’d hope my kids will feel the same way when they grow up.

  62. I took Spanish in high school, but in order for most people to truly grasp a foreign language, it is best to be introduced to it at an earlier age (I was 15 the first year I took it).

    Around California, most job postings will have the statement

    “Must speak fluent Spanish” or “Must speak fluent Hmong”

    in bold, rather than saying “Must have a four-year bachelor’s degree” or something to indicate an education. That’s what gets me – that there are so many customers who can’t speak English, that businesses have to hire employees who can speak their language.

    **I had the fun experience of seeing such shock: My mom speaks somewhat fluent Spanish (she has traveled extensively and is able to pick up the language) and one vacation we were staying in a hotel where (it seemed like) all the maids couldn’t speak/understand English. They were a little indifferent towards the customers and were talking loudly to themselves, when my mom asked (in English) if there were any extra towels. Two of them just looked at her and resumed talking. Apparently, they said something that indicated to my mom that they had understood that she was asking for towels, because my mom then interrupted them by firmly requesting towels again, this time in Spanish. We got the towels

  63. In the more liberal states, not being able to speak English is almost like being a foreign dignitary – people cater to you.
    Special interest groups and ACLU-type watch groups ensure that non-English speakers “aren’t discriminated against” in receiving work, pay, help, welfare, citizen benefits, job benefits, housing, etc.” Heck, even the public school systems coddle with those classes that are JUST FOR second language-learners.
    And it’s like being on welfare, once you’re coddled by the government (in this case, government-funded groups), you’re less likely to learn how to stand on your own two feet independently.
    Why do so many of you whites want to speak non-white languages?
    I don’t want to, as I’m sure most others don’t. I just feel that it’s best, for the sake of my future children, to ensure that they learn Spanish (in addition to maybe French and German) just in order to get by. We can’t pretend that the percentage of non-English speakers is going to reduce – it’s not. If it’s already a requirement to speak Spanish/Hmong for a basic job, just imagine how it’s going to be in the near future! I can just imagine government employees being hired on the requirement that they speak Spanish, followed by private businesses being taxed if they don’t provide a translator….you don’t have to let your imagination run wild on this one. It could very well happen.

  64. I can go into California, Texas or Arizona speaking Spanish and still have a very hard time. The key is what dialect of Spanish you learned. I learned the real thing; the language as it is spoken in Spain. Each country where its used has its own unique *style* of the language, and while the basics are similar, they are not necessarily the same and in some instances, are VERY different; a fact that a lot of my old friends lament…they feel their language has been *bastardized* to the point where it is almost unrecognizable, even to them.

    Hey, all in all it is an advantage to have at least a working knowledge of more than one language. If for no other reason than you know a.) when someone is trying to take advantage of you or when you simply need to put your guard up.

  65. Afrikaans is a seperate language though it borrows heavily from Dutch, but it’s NOT exactly like it in it’s grammatical structure.

    English and especially German speakers can understand it, with a little effort. My parents learned it in no time when they lived in South Africa in the early 60′s.

    I am trilingual, since I moved to Sweden, but was born bi-lingual.

    My daughters are being raised trilingual, but right now they speak mostly Swedish, a good deal of English, and are showing finally an interest in German, after many hours of singing them bedtime songs in German, since their birthes.

    They are however only 4 and soon to be 6 at this time. Yet, with 3 years of age I spoke fluent German, so it’s hard to say if they are ahead or behind in their language achievments.

    I simply introduce them to the language and let them decide. I often blend words in sentences here and there to help them build up their vocabulary and make their personal feelings for the language feel more natural to them.

    Soon I will be learning more Finnish myself and I think the girls could benefit from this language as well, as they are our neighboring Nation.
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  66. Spanish comes from, well, Spain. And American blacks speak English. Well, kind of. I took a year of Spanish and can read it fluently, even though it takes me far too long to form a coherent sentence in my brain to actually speak it well.
    Mexican Spanish (at least, the more educated version) actually sounds more like Italian than Spanish Spanish does. The version in Spain actually sounds to me like a Greek trying to speak Italian.

  67. I come from a country that is quite near to India called Sri Lanka. We are a great minority in Asia since we have less than 40 million in our population, and even the smallest states of India tend to be larger with more residents. We are significantly wealthier than India; while we don’t have any of the billionaires, super yachts etc. we also don’t have any starving wretches, slums, prostitution, and illiteracy that are found in India. As a result we get a lot of illegal immigration from India. One state of India has even promoted terrorism in our country to try to take it over.

    Most Indians that come to the U.S. to work in gas stations are in a difficult spot. They often come there knowing no one, and without a proper command of the English language. They face a huge culture shock and commit many faux pas at first. They get a job with someone from their own country who likely pays them barely enough to afford a ramen noodle diet. (Just because they are all Indians doesn’t matter; India has many different states with different religions, languages and customs, and some of them hate each other.. often Indians find that they get scammed by their fellow Indians more than anyone else.) They are often held responsible for anything that is stolen from the gas station or for any mistakes. The boss sees this as only fair, since he was abused when he first came to the U.S. and now it is his turn to take advantage of some poor chap. And all this can happen for many hours a day, up to 16 hours, sometimes the night shift. If the employer does not pay the meager earnings on time, the worker is scared to speak up under threat of having his work visa cancelled.

    Combine these troubles with the fact that the young man likely has a family back in his village that is waiting for him to send back money, and that the young man does not want to worry his family by telling them the truth about his dire situation. Also, there is the element of Indian Pride that does not allow him to admit it. His family presses him to send money for a new TV set or washing machine; after all, the neighbours are expecting to see these things… Everyone knows that he is now big man working in U.S.A.! Meanwhile, he himself does not have a washing machine- he lives with several other guys and they may even have to sleep in the beds in shifts! Roommates, while Indian, may be from a state that hates his, or they may oppose his religious beliefs or habits.

    So he is often feeling totally alone.

    Some people, like my Sri Lankan friends who own gas stations in Florida, have been able to completely assimilate into the community. They enjoy fishing and hunting, they enjoy a beer with the area trackers and farmers, and have been made to feel so welcome. But Indians are much more slow to do this. Caste issues (that still absolutely exist), religious issues, and an average lower level of education all play a role.

    If you see some Indian man behind the counter when you make your next trip to the convenience store, please have compassion for him. Jesus said that we should forgive those who persecute us… well how about those who have a bad attitude? You might be the first person in your town who will speak to him like a real human being. Just consider it. It would be a great witness to your salvation!

    • UK, you are clearly just as big an idiot and an Asshole as the other Haters being nosy on this site that doesn’t concern you! Your dumb comments are unfounded, and only made up by stupid racist such as yourself! You racist are always attempting to deem the Black man inferior, when in fact..you are the inferior loser…which is why so many of you hate in the first place! Your comments and your mere existence is a waste of space. We only laugh at your envious, ignorance because of how miserable you must be in your skin! Don’t hate the player…hate the game! And by the way….all one has to do is look around them….research on how many African-Americans far exceed your ridiculous existence! And the next time you want to post another ignorant comment…first find a site with people who actually care, because we are Black and Proud, and proud to check any of you HATERS for the racists that you are!

    • RACIST, RACIST RACIST! AND IGNORANT AND STUPID TO SAY THE LEAST! YOU NOR YOUR COMMENTS MATTER! AS I STATED TO THE OTHER IDIOTS….STOP HATING ON THE BLACK MAN BECAUSE YOU ARE INDEED ENVIOUS AND THREATENED BY OUR MERE EXISTENCE! OH WELL….TOO BAD FOR YOU…:)

  68. The issue is that blacks are obviously the most backward, and so it is especially required that people enforce socially the ban on any criticism of them, because there’s nothing but the social enforcement for the lie of their equality to persist on.

    Other peoples have done or produced things to lead to an argument on that basis. If I said the Japanese were obviously vastly inferior, then someone who disagrees will bring out a list of things the Japanese have done, their average IQ scores, and so on and so forth.

    The ancestors of Caucasoids and Mongoloids broke off from those of Negros probably about 160,000-180,000 years ago, according to the best scientific analysis currently available.

    Then the ancestors of the Caucasoids and Mongoloids developed in a more challenging climate, for many tens of thousands of years.

    Then the Caucasoids and Mongoloids broke off from each other only about 40,000 years ago.

    Then they continued developing, and those who developed in the coldest regions or in the most intellectually challenging civilizations developed the most of the different subraces of Caucasoids and Mongoloids.

    There are civilizations with valuable production you can point to in pre-Aryan Dravidian India, in S. America, in China, in Yemen, and so on and so forth.

    Subsaharan Africans are a very distant branch of humanity from all the rest, and their IQ scores and history demonstrate this. There is very little to be said in an argument about this fact except to scream “racist!” — a very different thing than what would happen if I were to claim the Japanese for example were inferior, this would in contrast bring out reams of data suggesting otherwise. There isn’t that for subsaharan Africans.

    Also for the record, the Ethiopians and Sudanese (“Nubians”) are admixed with Caucasoid. The Etiopians so much that their bones are classified as Caucasoid by even racialist anthropoligists, and the Sudanese appear to have something like 40% Caucasoid genetics (autosomal profile), from prehistoric Egyptian stock going in and spreading their language family and mixing in Sudan.

    So attempts to bring these two groups out as evidence — they have arguably had some minimal civilization at points — is also doomed. The only “argument” egalitarians can bring out for equating this very distant, very morally and intellectually underdeveloped branch of hominid with the rest of us, is the screaming of “racist! racist! racist!”.

  69. Before the age of three language is not learnt but acquired, which means it is naturally picked up similar the mother tongue rather than consciously learned. Young children learn languages much quicker and more easily than adults. The early age allows our brains to discriminate and learn all the sounds we are exposed to in a way that accent free pronunciation becomes hard-wired. In theory the small child should speak both languages accent free, however, observations in expatriate families show that this is not always the case. The son of an American couple in The Netherlands is in Dutch daycare as from the age of 8 months onwards every day for several hours, and at school age still speaks Dutch with an American accent. A possible explanation could be that the child hears the parents speak the foreign language with an accent.

    Speaking two different languages increases the linguistic awareness and thinking. The child learns that one thing can be called different names, a car can be “a car” or “une voiture” or “ein Auto”. Growing up he learns that one phenomenon can be described in different ways, from different perspectives and with different meanings. The child will also learn about language, from a meta perspective, comparing grammar, expressions and style. This will form a general language understanding and basis for learning other languages.

    A bilingual child will be fluent in both languages (or more), however, vocabulary will differ. If she speaks one language at home and another at school, she will adopt the “at home” vocabulary in the former and “academic” and “peer” language in the latter. Returning into the home country she may not know an essential part of the vocabulary yet sound like a native speaker. And even within the academic world different customs in school may lead to different kind of vocabulary. Vocabulary difference is not a major problem and with some effort vocabulary will quickly increase. Parents can and should see this as a challenge to introduce as many words and expression as possible to their bilingual child, going beyond the household talk, for example by making excursions to nature and museums, explaining what you see, reading books, encourage your child to read books in the home language.

    Social benefits

    “When living abroad speak as the local children speak” is an important aspect of integration into the neighborhood, belonging to the place where we live, and more than that. It is an important social value of trying to communicate with others, making an effort to understand and make oneself understood, creating a basis for common activities. It is also cultural learning, understanding of the host culture and being able to take different perspectives. Bilingual children can learn to build bridges between cultures and play with a variety of different personalities.

    “Is it still worthwhile, when we are here for only a couple of years?” many expatriates ask. Yes, it is. A couple of years may seem an eternity to your child, with a feeling of not fully belonging here, that native speakers are not important enough to learn their language and communicate with them, that you and your family are “different”. Social isolation versus making an effort to communicate and integrate, one of the two is the message learned for life. Not to mention the fact that I have often observed two years expanding to a whole childhood.

    Equally if father and mother speak different languages, bilingual education is a way of getting to know both parents better, including their cultural background and roots. This will increase family cohesion and mutual understanding, and be a bridge to the extended family. Bilingualism may be the key to strengthen both roots and belonging to the worlds of both parents rather than allowing language to become a barrier to parts of the family and their country. The benefits of cultural learning and being able to change perspectives will promote social and relationship competencies.

    Cognitive benefits

    The ability of taking different perspectives, making connections and thinking about language on an abstract level supports cognitive abilities as well. Short-term differences in the cognitive development have been observed, however these differences level out at the age of approximately 10 years. Long-term cognitive effects of bilingual education have not been sufficiently understood yet. Evidence supporting that third culture kids tend to be more successful academically and in their careers has to be questioned, as there are so many impacts. The influence of parental support and financial situation, attitude towards foreigners, schooling situation, peer influence etc. make it difficult to isolate the effects of bilingual education in longitudinal studies.

  70. I will start by letting everyone know that I am bi-racial. My mother is a white European, and my father a black man from the Caribbean. I figure I will beat many of you to the punch by calling my mother a race traitor, my father a negro (and from a mud race), and myself a half breed (don’t want to spend too much time on the countless other insults, so straight to the point).

    I have been extremely interested in groups like yours and others for decades. I applaud your forum rules. It seems that you guys are finally making your views more attractive to those who would otherwise be turned off by overtly inflammatory speech. I know you still court the stereotypical redneck and hill billy, but you have now captured an audience of scholars, scientists, engineers and those that are intellectually inclined. Well done.

    My understanding of your ultimate goal should not be too appalling to those interested in the general concept of freedom, free choice and self determination. No one should have a problem with your desire to preserve your race or culture. Although I have no vested interest in the success or failure of any race as a whole, I respect your desire to be left to your own devices, assuming it is not at the liberties of others.

    I also have no problem with the statistics that are quoted here ad nauseam. I think we all know that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime. I also understand that European (arguably Eurasian) history speaks for itself and should be regarded as the premier cultural and socio economic force that brought us to the level of industrialization that we enjoy today.

    Where you begin to lose me are the arguments about genetics. It’s fine if you believe blacks look like apes etc., but other than subject criteria such as looks, I must differ. I also fully understand you have an agenda, so I am not surprised that you may favor one set of data over another. For those of you unfamiliar with why “Europeans” (usually interchangable with white) have historically been so successful, please read: “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations” by David Landes, and “Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies” by Jared Diamond.

    What these books will try to convey is that yes, the concept of Europe/Eurasian dominance, innovation and influence cannot be disputed. It will show why Africa is at the bottom in terms of these accomplishments. Most importantly, they explain WHY. They do not suggest that there is a genetic reason for the success of the region, effectively postulating that any racial group could have achieved the same level of success if given the same confluence of events. If you do not have an interest in reading the entirety of the literature, Wikipedia can give you a synopsis, along with references and criticisms of the work.

    There is no doubt in my mind that “Black” culture in this country is full of major problems. However, you do not need to be balck to be part of black culture, just as you do not need to be white in order to be part of “White” culture. What you will find are blacks that have been raised in white culture are on par with the whites in that culture. The corollary is true of whites raised in black culture. As many of you are critical thinkers, you must understand a very basic premise: an exception disproves the rule.

    As I eluded to earlier, many of you will summarily dismiss these findings and replace them with the stereotypical “small brain” retort. As my user name suggests, seek the truth. If you are disgusted by the behavior of some blacks, jews, latins etc., so am I. I avoid groups of people whom I have reason to believe are up to no good. The videos and stories of violent criminals that are posted on this site sicken me, and I will make absolutely no excuse for their behavior. Further, if I were white, I may be inclined to join your group if I were only exposed to the constant bombardmenet of criminal behavior and general stupidity displayed by blacks and latins in this country.

    Alas, this is not my reality. The blacks that I know happen to be the most educated and successful of all of my multi racial group of friends. No affirmitive action, no government hand outs, just superior grades, scores and work ethic.

    It seems to me that you must make a choice. Of the options that seem most viable, one is most likely; the white population is declining, you do not have a large enough following to have any real meaningful political influence, it is highly unlikely that you will, during your lifetime, see a race war, or develop an independent society of and for whites. The only plausable answer, if you are interested in your own well being and that of your progeny, is to instill not “White” pride, but to explain cultural pride and welcome all races to be part of it. Compelling whites to shun blacks, latins et al, will do nothing for your cause. Take a look at history. Miscegenation is advancing more rapidly than white/white pro creation. Segregate yourselves if you must, but you will not achieve your goals for posterity.

    • so true, if a black male tries to be anything different than a ghetto person, then he is labeled a “cornball” brother. RG3 is my hero

  71. Until recently I taught at a predominantly
    black high school in a southeastern
    state.

    The mainstream press gives a hint of
    what conditions are like in black schools,
    but only a hint. Expressions journalists
    use like “chaotic” or “poor learning
    environment” or “lack of discipline” do
    not capture what really happens. There
    is nothing like the day-to-day experience
    of teaching black children and that is
    what I will try to convey.

    Most whites simply do not know what
    black people are like in large numbers,
    and the first encounter can be a shock.

    One of the most immediately striking
    things about my students was that they
    were loud. They had little conception of
    ordinary decorum. It was not unusual
    for five blacks to be screaming at
    me at once. Instead of calming down and
    waiting for a lull in the din to make their
    point—something that occurs to even
    the dimmest white students—blacks just
    tried to yell over each other.

    It did no good to try to quiet them, and
    white women were particularly inept at
    trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as
    she begged the children to pipe down.
    They just yelled louder so their voices
    would carry over hers.

    Many of my black students would
    repeat themselves over and over again—
    just louder. It was as if they suffered
    from Tourette syndrome. They seemed
    to have no conception of waiting for
    an appropriate time to say something.
    They would get ideas in their heads and
    simply had to shout them out. I might be
    leading a discussion on government and
    suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get
    more Democrats! Clinton, she good!”
    The student may seem content with that
    outburst but two minutes later, he would
    suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton
    good!”

    Anyone who is around young blacks
    will probably get a constant diet of rap music.
    Blacks often make up their own jingles,
    and it was not uncommon for 15 black
    boys to swagger into a classroom,
    bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.

    They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of
    words in the same harsh, rasping dialect.
    The words were almost invariably
    a childish form of boasting: “Who got
    dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe,
    who got dem shine grill (gold and silver
    dental caps)?” The amateur rapper usually
    ends with a claim—in the crudest
    terms imaginable—that all womankind
    is sexually devoted to him. For whatever
    reason, my students would often groan
    instead of saying a particular word, as in,
    “She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long
    grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh,
    she lick dat aaaahhh.”

    So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom,
    on the chairs, next to the chairs, under
    the chairs, everywhere. Once I took a
    call on my cell phone and had to step
    outside of class. I was away about two
    minutes but when I got back the black
    girls had lined up at the front of the
    classroom and were convulsing to the
    delight of the boys.

    Many black people, especially black
    women, are enormously fat. Some are
    so fat I had to arrange special seating to
    accommodate their bulk. I am not saying
    there are no fat white students—there
    are—but it is a matter of numbers and
    attitudes. Many black girls simply do not
    care that they are fat. There are plenty
    of white anorexics, but I have never met
    or heard of a black anorexic.

    “Black women be big Mr. Jackson,”
    my students would explain.

    “Is it okay in the black community to
    be a little overweight?” I ask.
    Two obese black girls in front of
    my desk begin to dance, “You know
    dem boys lak juicy fruit, Mr. Jackson.”
    “Juicy” is a colorful black expression
    for the buttocks.

    Blacks, on average, are the most directly critical
    people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid.
    Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike
    whites, who tread gingerly around the
    subject of race, they can be brutally to
    the point. Once I needed to send a student
    to the office to deliver a message. I
    asked for volunteers, and suddenly you
    would think my classroom was a bastion
    of civic engagement. Thirty dark hands
    shot into the air. My students loved to
    leave the classroom and slack off, even
    if just for a few minutes, away from the
    eye of white authority. I picked a light-skinned
    boy to deliver the message. One
    very black student was indignant: “You
    pick da half-breed.” And immediately
    other blacks take up the cry, and half
    a dozen mouths are screaming, “He
    half-breed.”

    For decades, the country has been
    lamenting the poor academic performance
    of blacks and there is much to
    lament. There is no question, however,
    that many blacks come to school with a
    serious handicap that is not their fault.
    At home they have learned a dialect that
    is almost a different language. Blacks
    not only mispronounce words; their
    grammar is often wrong. When a black
    wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?”
    he may actually say “Whar da badroom
    be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent
    of “Where the bathroom is?” And
    this is the way they speak in high school.
    Students write the way they speak, so
    this is the language that shows up in
    written assignments.

    It is true that some whites face a
    similar handicap. They speak with
    what I would call a “country” accent
    that is hard to reproduce but results in
    sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme
    a Coke.” Some of these country whites
    had to learn correct pronunciation and
    usage. The difference is that most whites
    overcome this handicap and learn to
    speak correctly; many blacks do not.

    Most of the blacks I taught simply
    had no interest in academic subjects. I
    taught history, and students would often
    say they didn’t want to do an assignment
    or they didn’t like history because it was
    all about white people. Of course, this
    was “diversity” history, in which every
    cowboy’s black cook got a special page
    on how he contributed to winning the
    West, but black children still found it
    inadequate. So I would throw up my
    hands and assign them a project on a
    real, historical black person. My favorite
    was Marcus Garvey. They had never
    heard of him, and I would tell them to
    research him, but they never did. They
    didn’t care and they didn’t want to do
    any work.

    Anyone who teaches blacks soon
    learns that they have a completely different
    view of government from whites.
    Once I decided to fill 25 minutes by
    having students write about one thing
    the government should do to improve
    America. I gave this question to three
    classes totaling about 100 students,
    approximately 80 of whom were black.
    My few white students came back with
    generally “conservative” ideas. “We
    need to cut off people who don’t work,”
    was the most common suggestion.
    Nearly every black gave a variation on
    the theme of “We need more government
    services.”

    My students had only the vaguest
    notion of who pays for government
    services. For them, it was like a magical
    piggy bank that never goes empty. One
    black girl was exhorting the class on
    the need for more social services and I
    kept trying to explain that people, real
    live people, are taxed for the money to
    pay for those services. “Yeah, it come
    from whites,” she finally said. “They
    stingy anyway.”

    “Many black people make over
    $50,000 dollars a year and you would
    also be taking away from your own
    people,” I said.

    She had an answer to that: “Dey
    half breed.” The class agreed. I let the
    subject drop.

    Many black girls are perfectly happy
    to be welfare queens. On career day, one
    girl explained to the class that she was
    going to have lots of children and get fat
    checks from the government. No one in
    the class seemed to have any objection
    to this career choice.

    Surprising attitudes can come out in
    class discussion. We were talking about
    the crimes committed in the aftermath of
    Hurricane Katrina, and I brought up the
    rape of a young girl in the bathroom of
    the Superdome. A majority of my students
    believed this was a horrible crime
    but a few took it lightly. One black boy
    spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat
    no big deal. They thought they is gonna
    die so they figured they have some fun.
    Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you
    know what I’m sayin’?” A few black
    heads nodded in agreement.

    My department head once asked all
    the teachers to get a response from all
    students to the following question: “Do
    you think it is okay to break the law if it
    will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had
    been teaching for a while and was not
    surprised by answers that left a young,
    liberal, white woman colleague aghast.
    “Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one
    student explained, “Get dat green.”

    There is a level of conformity among
    blacks that whites would find hard to
    believe. They like one kind
    of music: rap. They will
    vote for one political party:
    Democrat. They dance
    one way, speak one way,
    are loud the same way,
    and fail their exams in the
    same way. Of course, there
    are exceptions but they
    are rare.

    Whites are different.
    Some like country music,
    others heavy metal, some
    prefer pop, and still others,
    God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have
    different associations, groups, almost
    ideologies. There are jocks, nerds,
    preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all—
    well—black, and they are quick to let
    other blacks know when they deviate
    from the norm.

    One might object that there are important
    group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I
    have done my best to find them, but so
    far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk
    the same, think the same. Certainly, they
    form rival groups, but the groups are not
    different in any discernible way. There
    simply are no groups of blacks that are
    as distinctly different from each other
    as white “nerds,” “hunters,” or “Goths,”
    for example.

    How the world looks to blacks
    One point on which all blacks agree
    is that everything is “racis’.” This is
    one message of liberalism they have
    absorbed completely. Did you do your
    homework? “Na, homework racis’.”
    Why did you get an F on the test? “Test
    racis’.”

    I was trying to teach a unit on British
    philosophers and the first thing the students
    noticed about Bentham, Hobbes,
    and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da
    black philosopher a’?” I tried to explain
    there were no blacks in eighteenth century
    Britain. You can probably guess
    what they said to that: “Dat racis’!”
    One student accused me of deliberately
    failing him on a test because I
    didn’t like black people.

    “Do you think I really hate black
    people?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Have I done anything to make you
    feel this way? How do you know?”
    “You just do.”
    “Why do you say that?”

    He just smirked, looked out the window,
    and sucked air through his teeth.
    Perhaps this was a regional thing, but
    the blacks often sucked air through their
    teeth as a wordless expression of disdain
    or hostility.

    My students were sometimes unable
    to see the world except through the lens
    of their own blackness. I had a class
    that was host to a German exchange
    student. One day he put on a Power Point
    presentation with famous German landmarks
    as well as his school and family.

    From time to time during the presentation,
    blacks would scream, “Where da
    black folk?!” The exasperated German
    tried several times to explain that there
    were no black people where he lived in
    Germany. The students did not believe
    him. I told them Germany is in Europe,
    where white people are from, and Africa
    is where black people are from. They
    insisted that the German student was
    racist, and deliberately refused to associate
    with blacks.

    Blacks are keenly interested in
    their own racial characteristics. I have
    learned, for example, that some blacks
    have “good hair.” Good hair is black
    parlance for black-white hybrid hair.
    Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to
    style, and considered more attractive.
    Blacks are also proud of light skin.
    Imagine two black students shouting
    insults across the room. One is dark
    but slim; the other light and obese. The
    dark one begins the exchange: “You
    fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look
    at his detractor, shakes his head like a
    wobbling top, and says, “You wish you
    light skinned.”

    They could go on like this, repeating
    the same insults over and over.

    My black students had nothing but
    contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They
    would vent their feelings so crudely
    that our department strongly advised us
    never to talk about immigration in class
    in case the principal or some outsider
    might overhear.

    Whites were “racis’,” of course, but
    they thought of us at least as Americans.
    Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain,
    not necessarily hostile understanding of
    white people. They know how whites
    act, and it is clear they believe whites
    are smart and are good at organizing
    things. At the same time, they probably
    suspect whites are just putting on an
    act when they talk about equality, as if
    it is all a sham that makes it easier for
    whites to control blacks. Blacks want a
    bigger piece of the American pie. I’m
    convinced that if it were up to them
    they would give whites a considerably
    smaller piece than whites get now, but
    they would give us something. They
    wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.

    What about black boys and white
    girls? No one is supposed to
    notice this or talk about it but
    it is glaringly obvious: Black
    boys are obsessed with white
    girls. I’ve witnessed the following
    drama countless times. A black
    boy saunters up to a white
    girl. The cocky black dances
    around her, not really in a menacing
    way. It’s more a shuffle
    than a threat. As he bobs and
    shuffles he asks, “When you
    gonna go wit’ me?”

    There are two kinds of reply.
    The more confident white
    girl gets annoyed, looks away
    from the black and shouts, “I don’t wanna
    go out with you!” The more demure
    girl will look at her feet and mumble
    a polite excuse but ultimately say no.

    There is only one response from the
    black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls—all
    too many—actually feel guilty because
    they do not want to date blacks. Most
    white girls at my school stayed away
    from blacks, but a few, particularly the
    ones who were addicted to drugs, fell
    in with them.

    There is something else that is striking
    about blacks. They seem to have
    no sense of romance, of falling in love.
    What brings men and women together is
    sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude
    openness about this. There are many degenerate
    whites, of course, but some of
    my white students were capable of real
    devotion and tenderness, emotions that
    seemed absent from blacks—especially
    the boys.

    Black schools are violent and the
    few whites who are too poor to escape
    are caught in the storm. The violence is
    astonishing, not so much that it happens,
    but the atmosphere in which it happens.
    Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly
    content with what they are doing,
    having a good time, and then, suddenly
    start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long
    ago, I was walking through the halls
    and a group of black boys were walking
    in front of me. All of a sudden they
    started fighting with another group in
    the hallway.

    Blacks are extraordinarily quick to
    take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed
    a black boy’s white sneaker with my
    shoe. He immediately rubbed his body
    up against mine and threatened to attack
    me. I stepped outside the class and had
    a security guard escort the student to
    the office. It was unusual for students
    to threaten teachers physically this way,
    but among themselves, they were quick
    to fight for similar reasons.

    The real victims are the unfortunate
    whites caught in this. They are always
    in danger and their educations suffer.
    White weaklings are particularly susceptible,
    but mostly to petty violence. They
    may be slapped or get a couple of kicks
    when they are trying to open a bottom
    locker. Typically, blacks save the hard,
    serious violence for each other.

    There was a lot of promiscuous sex
    among my students and this led to
    violence. Black girls were constantly
    fighting over black boys. It was not uncommon
    to see two girls literally ripping
    each other’s hair out with a police officer
    in the middle trying to break up the
    fight. The black boy they were fighting
    over would be standing by with a smile,
    enjoying the show he had created. For
    reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom
    fought over girls.

    Pregnancy was common among the
    blacks, though many black girls were
    so fat I could not tell the difference. I
    don’t know how many girls got abortions,
    but when they had the baby they
    usually stayed in school and had their
    own parents look after the child. The
    school did not offer daycare.

    Aside from the police officers constantly
    on patrol, a sure sign that you
    My black students had
    nothing but contempt for
    Hispanics. Whites were
    “racis’,” of course, but
    they thought of us at least
    as Americans.

    Security guards are everywhere in
    black schools—we had one on every
    hall. They also sat in on unruly classes
    and escorted students to the office. They
    were unarmed, but worked closely with
    the three city police officers who were
    constantly on duty.

    There was a lot of drug-dealing at
    my school. This was a good way to
    make a fair amount of money but it
    also gave boys power over girls who
    wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black
    or white—became the plaything of anyone
    who could get her drugs.

    One of my students was a notorious
    drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was
    19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once
    he got a score of three out of 100 on a
    test. He had been locked up four times
    since he was 13.

    One day, I asked him, “Why do you
    come to school?”

    He wouldn’t answer. He just looked
    out the window, smiled, and sucked air
    through his teeth. His friend Yidarius
    ventured an explanation: “He get dat
    green and get dem females.”

    “What is the green?” I asked. “Money
    or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

    A very fat black interrupted from
    across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr.
    Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
    brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast
    and lunch poor students get every day.
    “Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’
    brickfuss!” shouts another student.

    Some readers may believe that I
    have drawn a cruel caricature of black
    students. After all, according to official
    figures some 85 percent of them graduate.
    It would be instructive to know how
    many of those scraped by with barely a
    C- record. They go from grade to grade
    and they finally get their diplomas
    because there is so much pressure on
    teachers to push them through. It saves
    money to move them along, the school
    looks good, and the teachers look good.

    Many of these children should have been
    failed, but the system would crack under
    their weight if they were all held back.

    How did my experiences make me
    feel about blacks? Ultimately, I lost
    sympathy for them. In so many ways
    they seem to make their own beds.
    There they were in an integrationist’s
    fantasy—in the same classroom with
    white students, eating the same lunch,
    using the same bathrooms, listening to
    the same teachers—and yet the blacks
    fail while the whites pass.

    One tragic outcome among whites
    who have been teaching for too long
    is that it can engender something close
    to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up
    fast food—not for health reasons but
    because where he lived most fast-food
    workers were black. He had enough of
    blacks on the job. This was an extreme
    example but years of frustration can
    take their toll. Many of my white colleagues
    with any experience were well
    on their way to that state of mind.

    There is an unutterable secret among
    teachers: Almost all realize that blacks
    do not respond to traditional white
    instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism?
    Not at all. It is what
    brings about endless, pointless innovation
    that is supposed to bring blacks up
    to the white level. The solution is more diversity—or put
    more generally, the solution is change.
    Change is an almost holy word in education,
    and you can fail a million times as
    long as you keep changing. That is why
    liberals keep revamping the curriculum
    and the way it is taught. For example,
    teachers are told that blacks need handson
    instruction and more group work.

    Teachers are told that blacks are more
    vocal and do not learn through reading
    and lectures. The implication is that they
    have certain traits that lend themselves
    to a different kind of teaching.

    Whites have learned a certain way for
    centuries but it just doesn’t work with
    blacks. Of course, this implies racial
    differences but if pressed, most liberal
    teachers would say different racial
    learning styles come from some indefinable
    cultural characteristic unique to
    blacks. Therefore, schools must change,
    America must change. But into what?
    How do you turn quantum physics into
    hands-on instruction or group work? No
    one knows, but we must keep changing
    until we find something that works.

    Public school has certainly changed
    since anyone reading this was a student.
    I have a friend who teaches elementary
    school, and she tells me that every week
    the students get a new diversity lesson,
    shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s
    office in Washington or the state
    capital. She showed me the materials
    for one week: a large poster,
    about the size of a forty-two inch
    flat-screen television. It shows
    an utterly diverse group—I mean
    diverse: handicapped, Muslim,
    Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich,
    brown, slightly brown, yellow,
    etc.—sitting at a table, smiling
    gaily, accomplishing some undefined
    task. The poster comes with
    a sheet of questions the teacher is
    supposed to ask. One might be: “These
    kids sure look different, but they look
    happy. Can you tell me which one in
    the picture is an American?”

    Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance,
    will point to a white child like
    himself. “That one.”

    The teacher reads from the answer,
    conveniently printed along with the
    question. “No, Billy, all these children
    are Americans. They are just as American
    as you.”

    The children get a snack, and the
    poster goes up on the wall until another
    one comes a week later. This is
    what happens at predominately white,
    middle-class, elementary schools everywhere.
    Elementary school teachers love All
    of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning
    children’s poet Arnold Adoff.

    These are some of the lines they read
    to the children: “Mama is chocolate …
    Daddy is vanilla … Me (sic) is better …
    It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For
    love. Sometimes blackness seems too
    black for me, and whiteness is too sickly
    pale; and I wish every one were golden.
    Remember: long ago before people
    moved and migrated, and mixed and
    matched … there was one people: one
    color, one race. The colors are flowing
    from what was before me to what will
    be after. All the colors.”

    Teaching as a career
    It may come as a surprise after what
    I have written, but my experiences have
    given me a deep appreciation for teaching
    as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class
    life but comes with the capacity
    to make real differences in the lives of
    children. In our modern, atomized world
    children often have very little communication
    with adults—especially, or even,
    with their parents—so there is potential
    for a real transaction between pupil and
    teacher, disciple and master.

    A rewarding relationship can grow
    up between an exceptional, interested
    student and his teacher. I have stayed in
    my classroom with a group of students
    discussing ideas and playing chess until
    the janitor kicked us out. I was the
    old gentleman, imparting my history,
    culture, personal loves and triumphs,
    defeats and failures to young kinsman.
    Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus,
    the Spartan poet, who counseled the
    youth to honor and loyalty. I never had
    this kind intimacy with a black student,
    and I know of no other white teacher
    who did.

    Teaching can be fun. For a certain
    kind of person it is exhilarating to map
    out battles on chalkboards, and teach
    heroism. It is rewarding to challenge
    liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on
    these children, but what I aimed for with
    my white students I could never achieve
    with the blacks.

    There is a kind of child whose look
    can melt your heart: some working-class
    castaway, in and out of foster homes,
    often abused, who is nevertheless almost
    an angel. Your heart melts for these children,
    this refuse of the modern world.

    Many white students possess a certain
    innocence; their cheeks still blush.
    Try as I might, I could not get the
    blacks to care one bit about Beethoven
    or Sherman’s march to the sea, or
    Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even
    liberals like John Rawls, or their own
    history. They cared about nothing I
    tried to teach them. When this goes on
    year after year it chokes the soul out
    of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and
    sends him guiltily searching for The Bell
    Curve on the Internet.

    Blacks break down the intimacy that
    can be achieved in the classroom, and
    leave you convinced that that intimacy
    is really a form of kinship. Without
    intending to, they destroy what is most
    beautiful—whether it be your belief in
    human equality, your daughter’s innocence,
    or even the state of the
    hallway.

    Just last year I read on the
    bathroom stall the words “F**k
    Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the
    same stall, was a small swastika.

    The National Council for the Social
    Studies, the leading authority on social
    science education in the United States,
    urges teachers to inculcate such values
    as equality of opportunity, individual
    property rights, and a democratic form
    of government. Even if teachers could
    inculcate this milquetoast ideology into
    whites, liberalism is doomed because so
    many non-whites are not receptive to
    education of any kind beyond the merest
    basics.

    It is impossible to
    get them to care about such abstractions
    as property rights or democratic citizenship.
    They do not see much further than
    the fact that you live in a big house and
    “we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a
    few loutish whites who will never think
    past their next meal and a few sensitive
    blacks for whom anything is possible,
    but no society takes on the characteristics
    of its exceptions.

    Once I asked my students, “What do
    you think of the Constitution?”
    “It white,” one slouching black rang
    out. The class began to laugh. And I
    caught myself laughing along with them,
    laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers,
    while the barbarians swell around
    the Palatine, while the country I love,
    and the job I love, and the community I
    love become dimmer by the day.

    I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian
    who visited Zimbabwe not
    too many years ago. Traveling with a
    companion, she stopped at a store along
    the highway. A black man materialized
    next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I)
    work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You
    give job.”

    “What happened to your old job?”
    the expatriate white asked. The black man replied in the straightforward
    manner of his race: “We drove
    out the whites. No more jobs. You give
    job.”

    At some level, my students understand
    the same thing. One day I asked
    the bored, black faces staring back
    at me. “What would happen if all the
    white people in America disappeared
    tomorrow?”

    “We screwed,” a young, pitch-black
    boy screamed back. The rest of the
    blacks laughed.

    I have had children tell me to my face
    as they struggled with an assignment. “I
    cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”The point is that human beings are not
    always rational. It is in the black man’s
    interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but
    he drives them out and starves. Most
    whites do not think black Americans
    could ever do anything so irrational.
    They see blacks on television smiling,
    fighting evil whites, embodying
    white values. But the real black is not
    on television, and you pull your purse
    closer when you see him, and you lock
    the car doors when he swaggers by
    with his pants hanging down almost to
    his knees.For those of you with children, better
    a smaller house in a white district than
    a fancy one near a black school.

    I have been in parent-teacher conferences
    that broke my heart: the child
    pleading with his parents to take him
    out of school; the parents convinced
    their child’s fears are groundless. If you
    love your child, show her you care—
    not by giving her fancy vacations or a
    car, but making her innocent years safe
    and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black
    school.

      • I can really chime in on this better than 99% of the people here, for 2 reasons.

        1) I was one of 3 white kids in a school of 800 plus blacks

        2) When I was a teacher, I taught in all black schools for two years.

        There is no change. The settings are different, the results are always the same.

        The only difference I noticed, that the word ‘racist’ comes out more as time goes on, it is their crutch to lean on and blame the world for their shortcomings.

        When I was young and in school, I would not have pissed on most of those kids had they been on fire. 98% of them were just pure waste of time.
        There were some good kids there, I wont lie, but they were always beat down by the mass of idiots. Do well in school, and you are an Uncle Tom, or Wanna be White, etc. You get no praise from that community for accomplishing anything academically.

        The teacher who wrote that is so spot on. If you are a white parent, a and you let your children go to school in that environment, then you are a race traitor. My parents go us out, and I was hardly racially aware back then, but my parents KNEW that it was not a good situation, and did everything they could to get us into a poor white area rather than a poor black area. Our attitudes changed almost overnight once we moved, why you ask? Because we were within our own environment.

        Blacks love to blame everything on whites and poverty, but poor whites still achieve greatness on a much higher % than poor blacks do. To the antis out there, this has EVERYTHING to do with race. Whites are wired so much differently than blacks, and unless you have LIVED amongst them like I have, then you are unqualified. There is a reason that Asians and Whites consistently out perform blacks and Mexicans (I wont use Hispanic, cuz the people I am talking about are not from Spain or Portugal) in educational settings. WE ARE WIRED DIFFERENTLY. No way around it.

        The higher % of blacks in a classroom, the worse the learning environment will be, and I would bet a years salary on it every time, and win 99/100 of those bets.

    • As for the dumb ass, so-called “teacher” who wrote that mockery of an essay……you are clearly an ignorant, evil RACIST, and you have no place around those beautiful African-American children in the first place! Why don’t you find a career more suitable for you…such as becoming a member of the KKK! Although I’m sure you are already a member. With the ignorant hatred that you harbor….you have no place around any children, whether Black, White, Hispanic, etc. I’m sure that if those African-American students and parents of those children actually realized the hatred that you harbor…you would be unemployed and looking for another job your damn self! But as always….racists always hide behind covers, because you are all cowards, and afraid to confront the very people in which you hate! What a sorry loser! And for those of you commentators who gave the racist teacher props for writing such an ignorant, inaccurate, biased, prejudice piece of garbage….you are all nothing more than low-life, sorry excuses for human-beings as well! You are HATERS….NOTHING MORE THAN THE DIRT ON THE SOLE OF MY SHOES! How much torture you must endure living your miserable lives. AHAHAHA! WHAT A JOKE!

      • It’s always amazing to realize how many ignorant, racist people still waste their lives hating on the African-American race…just because they harbor jealousy and fear! The bottom line is that, at the end of the day….there is nothing for you to do about your miserable hate, besides suck it up and just deal with it, because we will always be the race that you love to hate….simply because we are that awesome, and you should hate us because we definitely hate you in return! So no worries…continue with your hate because you guys are irrelevant anyway, and we could careless about you! Furthermore, how contradicting you are regarding your fake, inaccurate analogies of us….you try to disrespect us and try to think of every bit of hateful things that your petty minds can think of to say against us, but then you get your cheap thrills by butting your nosy asses into our business, and commenting on a site filled with issues that concern the Black and Brown! You put us down in every way that you can, but then you can’t get enough of us….you can’t leave us alone. Get your own life because we don’t need to hear from you at all! Don’t you realize how much your hidden envy is exposed stupid!? and while you waste your life hating on us…we laugh at the jealousy and fear…BOO! AHAHAHA!

    • Yes, a great, great, post. I know of a woman, a childhood friend, always wanted to be a teacher, just like her parents. She lasted ONE YEAR in a big city public school system. It seems such a waste to spend anything on those who do not want the education. After all, THEY do not have to look for a job after graduation. The welfare system is there for THEM, the rest of their lives. As they get bored, they will do crime. And fill the prisons. The rock bottom bedrock answer is: THEY will not learn. The welfare system’s liberals has trained THEM to blame, blame, blame.
      If I were ever a teacher among THEM, I would ask first day…”Do you want to learn and better your lives?” When I hear the “NO!”, I would sit down at my desk, and read a book. Same result.

      • Wonderful read! Anyone unlucky enough to spend time around blacks, knows how very true this is. Yet, the liberal media creeps constantly portray these savages as, intelligent/beautiful/sexy/wealthy/charming/fun/happy/care-free, etc…etc… Apparently, White people have been banned from commercials, because all you see are, blacks mexicans and asians. I still find it rather hilarious, how the burglars are ALWAYS White guys in these home security commercials. I mean, we all know blacks and mexicans would NEVER burglarize someone’s home. After all, they’re such great contributors to society. Anywho, great great read!

        • I met someone today who is an african american who was adopted by a white family. He was raised in a very nondiverse white neighborhood and has very strong negative views of blacks and other minorities. He thinks they are lazy, stupid, and selfish. He thinks whites need to take America back and stop the invasion of nonwhites before it is too late. he reminded me of a lot of the things you promote on this website. I was just so shocked because he is black and he hates being black and hates all other blacks. He wishes he was white and thinks of himself that way. He told me he wants to be Michael jackson when he grows up so he can turn from black to white and be accepted by people active in the war against nonwhites….
          I am just wondering what some of you might say to him…I mean he is not white yet he embodies what you stand for and wants to help get nonwhites out of america and…well…just gone. I just wonder if you would accept his help or if you would turn him away. I know it goes against everything you stand for…but does it really??? lemme know, I’m really curious what his fate would be…?

          • Ashley, your friend is only a product of those generations before him, that were taught to hate themselves…due to the White mans’ hatred of their Blackness, due to envy and fear. That’s all…he’s just lost and brainwashed! So to him I would say nothing

          • If he does not love his true self, he can change his color, search for this person he is wishing to be and never find it, because that person does not exsist. Michael Jackson hated himself, even after the color change. I would tell him to help change the negative image of Blacks by showing that he like so many others can do positive.

      • You better run and hide…..your fear is showing you stupid idiot! And we all know how much you guys don’t fear the Black and the Brown man right? LOL! You could never equal the greatness that we possess…that’s why you hate us so much! You are so miserable with envy and hate….but you none of you will stop hiding will you?! so just shut up and go to sleep somewhere…PERMANENTLY!

  72. let me tell you a little something about where I live. I’m Asian, so we have epicanthic eyes, black hair and yellowish to brown skin. Every year, hundreds of people would get plastic surgery operations to make them “less Asian.” Some would dye their hair brown. Others would try to make their nose thin and there are even some who take growth hormones. What these cases illustrate are dissatisfactions with natural attributes. People don’t like what’s natural because their ego or their preconceptions tells them that the things they are born with or into have no value, so they try to amass wealth in order to change all of that, not to mention salve their neurosis.

    This trend makes the false idea that artificiality, money, society and technology can help people come to terms with who they are and what they may achieve. I may be anachronistic in saying this, but I find this way of thinking obscene

    We can’t control our genetic inheritance, but that’s the way things are regardless of whether we feel proud of it or ashamed about it. The fact is that there will always be groups of people who are either smarter, more beautiful, more athletic, less susceptible to diseases, etc. than my race. Likewise, there will also be groups of people who are inferior to my race in one aspect or another.

    If your friend were to wish that he was part of another race then he is ultimately saying that blacks are inferior, thus devaluing himself and his genetic inheritance. Moreover, if he persists in being white, he is effectively desires to become a part of a culture to which he does not belong to him.

    Your friend will have to accept that his skin will always exclude him from being White (or Amerindian or Asian), just as Wapanese will never be Japanese no matter how many blonds there are on Anime. Is that a bad thing? Only if he continues to think it is. What I think, or what you think or what WN think is irrelevant to his happiness. What matters is that he is able to find peace with who and what he is.

    It pays to think of things this way. There are things in this world that you can only earn – like a college degree or a promotion. They can’t be given and they can’t handed over to you. However, there are also things in this world that can only be given to you. Your family, parents and children are given to you. You don’t earn them. Your IQ is given to people by chance. And of course, genetic material is also something that happens upon people by chance. As a result genetic material is something which does not belong to your friend. He’s holding on to on behalf of his ancestors and his possible descendants. So every time he chooses to look upon his genes as something unworthy, he is also in effect devaluing the people who share in that genetic legacy.

    The problem with Western culture is that it doesn’t like the idea of getting something that isn’t earned. It implies the persecution of some unknown natural law which decides who is white and who is not. But as I’ve mentioned before, there are things which cannot be bought or earned. They can only be accepted with gratitude. This holds true for the color of your friend’s skin.

    And finally, I’m nonwhite and I support White Nationalism. Why? Because I oppose Globalism, Multiculturalism, Cultural/Racial Homogenization, Political Correctness and Neo Liberal/Conservative hypocrisy. It’s a support that’s rooted in interest rather than cause.

  73. I live in the central valley area of Californico. We got plenty of Mexicans speaking their Spanish, Arabs wearing their hijabs, and blacks listening to the disgusting mockery of music that is gangster rap as they waddle around in their knee level excuses for pants. its a wonderful place! the diversity!…………………………………. ………………………………………….. …………………………………Obviously, I’m kidding. I am currently trying to raise enouph money to get the heck out. I would NEVER raise a family here.

  74. Hi, this is a incident that took place last year during my freshman year of High school. So, my school got a new Principal last year, a huge white man of about 6’5 and around 300 pounds with a military background, i believe he is from Florida. One day in gym class we were playing dodgeball, and my friend hit the new black kid with the ball and got him out, but the black said the ball didn’t hit hit him and continued playing (typical negro behavior). My friend called him a ‘stupid n***er’. Well, two boys went and told on him later that day (one of the boys is my neighbor). So, my friend was called down to the office and had to explain himself to the principal, the principal told him he was a racist and so on. Then my friend asked the principal, What if he called me a cracker?, the principal said ‘that’s not racist, crackers were farmers who whipped their cows with whips, and made a cracking noise’. So, me and a few other of my friends were called down to the office and the principal asked us if we heard my friend call the black kid a n***er, which we all lied and said he didn’t because we didn’t want my friend to get in trouble, then the principal called the black kid down to the office and asked him if my friend called him a n***er, and the black kid said no, ( he didn’t hear my friend call him a n***er), so the two boys who told on my friend were forced to apologize to my friend and received a detention for lying. I was thinking about the incident a few days after it went down, and i thought, since the black kid isn’t fully African (he’s a half-caste, his dad is black and his mom is white) would the word n***er be racist towards him since he is half white and half black?

      • Hey everyone,

        So I’ve always had a pretty good relationship with my dad and stepmom, despite the fact that she is Filipino. In my household, there is a slight sense of racial awareness, but it seems mainly out of bias than out of acceptance of real racial difference. My dad and stepmom are both annoyed by blacks, and my dad pretty much hates them.

        Our neighborhood is probably majority black, so I’ve been pretty racially aware from day one. It wasn’t until a few years ago that I really became fully awakened, though.

        However, with this awakening, it dawned on me that my dad was really sort of a race traitor. It used to be that I just kind of let the thought sit in the back of my mind, and not really think about it too much, but recently it has really hit me.

        My dad and stepmom are good friends with an illegal immigrant Mexican family in the neighborhood, despite my dad calling himself a conservative, and one of the Mexican girls regularly comes over to our apartment. I’ve known the girl for years. She’s close to the family. She’s the type to fawn over white boys, and recently I called her out on this. I said something like, “You know, you should date Mexican boys. What’s wrong with sticking to your own people?” Of course, she calls me racist, and it seems to end there.

        Well I find out on Father’s Day that she went and told my dad and stepmom. So my dad approaches me and asks me if I think interracial marriage is wrong, blah blah blah. I say yes. Well then, of course, he gets all offended, seeing as he has a Filipino wife. He asks me if I think they’re wrong, and I tell him I don’t want to talk about them. Of course, he pretty much gets the idea.

        So he sits me down in the living room, tries to tell me that because she’s Fillipino and they’re “Americanized”, that it’s okay and does no harm to a family line. He defends all the loser white guys at Filipino parties walking around in Filipino clothes. Then they go on to tell me that telling the girl that she should stick to her own race makes me a genuinely unkind person.

        My stepmom even went on to say, “Why care about what your race is doing now? You can’t control what they’ll do in the future.”

        My dad and I generally see eye to eye on things. Most of the time, even racially. But this event made it clear to me that, even if he is really on my side in between his ears, he’s a sell-out in reality.

        I love my dad. He’s a good man who has taught me many lessons. He has a strong sense of morality, and a kind heart, but this event broke mine a little.

        He’s a softie, and just as guilty as all the other white people in my neighborhood selling themselves out to Mexicans and Negroes.

          • Really russiain ?! LMFAO! I’m pretty sure that you are as much a racist as the rest of these other losers invading this blog of my “BLACK” brotha…with your comment about having “A” Black friend! Too bad your “Black friend”, doesn’t realize the type of person you truly are. SMDH!

    • I live in a relatively rich town, so the black people here are actually better educated and less ghetto than most parts. However I noticed they are so sensitive about their race.

      I am “friends” with a black girl, and she often starts to ignore people who mention her race–even if it’s not in a bad way. One day she was mentioning how this other girl’s hair is so nice and asked why her own hair wasn’t so silky. I just kind of said, “Well maybe it’s because you’re black”. Then she ignored me all day and would refuse to tell me why.

      Another time, she called me to complain about how our other friend had thought she was holding fried chicken. I could hear her mother raging in the background over the “issue”. Honestly, I don’t see what’s so offensive about fried chicken. The friend who said this even admitted that she literally thought our black “friend” was holding fried chicken. I see nothing wrong with that. I just don’t get how, just because she’s black, we cannot mention fried chicken.

      The thing that really pisses me off is that this black girl has no trouble making jokes of other races, yet once someone says something to her regarding her own race that ISN’T EVEN RACIST, she flips out. Seriously, what can we do about this? This is probably why there’s so many black crimes, because they’re too damn sensitive and think everything is a personal attack on them.

      • As always…only pitiful, sorry excuses for human-beings such as yourself are inclined to believe and quote inaccurate statistics! WOW….how ignorant can one be!? Anyone with common sense realizes by now that statistics always concentrate on the African-American race, in an attempt to make us look as if we are the plague that lives within this hateful world, when in fact, we all know (or should I rephrase that and say that anyone willing to accept and admit the truth) knows that the real devils reside within those other races (needless to mention which race I am referring to because the truth has been exposed for hundreds of years). You fool, those HATERS conducting those inaccurate, racially motivated statistics never record the true numbers! They almost always exclude the true numbers for other races, to purposely increase the numbers for African-Americans….so shame on you for being so dumb! Now go and get yourself a life, and why don’t you do us a favor and eliminate your ignorant comments from this blog (of a BLACK MAN), and stop being so concerned about what we have going on, because we don’t care about you or your comments, and could give a damn about anything concerning you, or your other racist pals! UGH….DIE ALREADY..DAMN!

      • Black history month! What a joke! What an insult to other races.
        What about the Chinese, what about the Indians, what about East Asians. How do you define who is black?
        Because the aforementioned people are not. Yet they have no month or even a day for them to celebrate.
        What about a half caste. Is he black?
        Oh! I nearly forgot! What about white history month. But then I guess the ‘Marxist Zoglets of re-education’ kinda let that one slip by.

        • Toprameneesha, Just how is it an insult to other races if there is a month (the shortest month, I might add), set aside in observance of the African-American people? Why is there always something wrong with anything that serves for the benefit of African-Americans? Why do some people always want to find fault with the African-American, instead of placing the fault where it righteously belongs?! Furthermore, we did not personally enact this observance into society, so how is it supposed to be our problem that you are angry that there is no observance for your race, or for all people?! And I certainly make no apologies for it because a month in observance for African-Americans is justly deserved! Maybe there’s a month set aside for African-Americans because those other races that you mentioned did not suffer through all the hatred, inequality, and injustice that the African-American race has suffered. Maybe the observance was set aside out of an act of a guilty conscience? Ever let that thought ponder?! And by the way…..what about the reparations given to the Japanese people, as a sign of remorse for unjustly subjecting them to concentration camps many years ago? You don’t have a problem with that right?! You don’t have a problem with the fact that they were given reparations, but no reparations were ever given to the African-American race, all the African-American race has ever gotten in regards to reparations are excuses! Excuses about the hardship that distributing that sort of reparation would cause on America…because the powers do agree that a reparations to the African-American people would be too much of a dollar amount to handle….because we do deserve just that much..considering our suffering for no fault of our own, nothing more than the crime of being hated and feared! And if any race ever deserves reparations, it’s the African-American in America! What about the month set aside in observance of the Latino race? You don’t have a problem with that right? There’s only a problem with the African-American race, because as always….you are all nothing more than evil, prejudice HATERS! Nevertheless, we don’t care because all we do is keep making it happen….and we “GET THAT DIRT OFF OUR SHOULDERS”…. in my Jay Z voice….you know who that is right? My brotha…the rapper that you all call “THUG!” AHAHA! you guys slay me…:) SOOOO FUNNY! Good Day

    • Black People Responsible for Virtually All Crime in Atlanta — Judge Marvin Arrington Confirms
      OD has done the tremendous task of compiling the COLOR OF CRIME for the city of Atlanta (looking at statistics from April 2011 to April 2012). The results:
      In Atlanta, African-Americans are 54 percent of the population, but are responsible for 100 percent of homicide, 95 percent of rape, 94 percent of robbery, 84 percent of aggravated assault, and 93 percent of burglary.
      Source: APD Uniform Crime Reports, Apr 2011 to Apr 2012

  75. So today at school, I was pulled from my class to join the Black History Month Assembly, hosted by the “Young Black Achievers” club.

    For introduction, there is loud music from the speakers as we sit down. Once sat, a dance team came out and danced…. a few kids read from passages about famous Black achievers…

    Then, a guest speaker steps forward with a microphone. He starts off with introducing himself. He says that the things he will talk about will be humorous, serious, and even…. uncomfortable.
    But, it is okay to be uncomfortable, he says. You must be comfortable with being uncomfortable.

    The first topic he gets into, is the culture of Black people in America that derived from slavery. He goes into detail about the population of Blacks in the United States- I think he said about 14%, and how they are a minority. Then, he mentions colleges- that only 3% of a college’s students are Black.
    He says, “It’s not like Black people don’t want to go to college- they go to the same schools as you. And the majority of these Black students are in sports such as Football and Basketball.”
    While I was sitting in the audience, I thought to myself, because I thought the speaker was being rather vague and confusing. What is his point? That Black people don’t have as much opportunity?

    Next, he speaks about the image of Black people being portrayed by rappers. That Blacks are being portrayed as “Gangster, bad-boy, trashy”. For some examples, he shows us Lil’Wayne and 50-Cent, some rappers, on the projector. The images are the Album covers for their songs.
    One image shows 50-Cent on a cover.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H_DTNK-mOE…lbum-cover.jpg

    “This, is a terrible image. It soils the Black culture,” the speaker says. In the next image, it shows 50-Cent without the shattered graphics. “Under all of that, he looks like a respected Black man. Black people should not be portrayed like this.”
    He does this several other times, editing Album covers to show the “Civilized Black Person” beneath.

    Then, the speaker claims that 80% of hip hop and rap music is bought by Whites. He quoted this from a passage that dated from 2005…. yeah. 7 years ago. Was his statement even accurate to begin with?

    Again, as I sat in that audience, I thought…. What is he trying to say?

    This is the most shocking subject. The speaker brings back the Slavery subject, and talks about Lynching. How, Black people were taken, and hung for White people’s enjoyment…. He goes on and on, that Black people need to preserve their culture, how they used to be segregated.

    Then. Obama.
    The first Black president- a prodigy for the African people of America…. They all rejoiced at his winning of the election. What a great, good thing this was for the Black people. Of course, the Black people in the audience cheer.
    They make no matter of discussing politics. No- only his race.
    Ohh- the poor Blacks that were lynched, so unfair, so mistreated. The assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. Now look- a Black president. Look at what Blacks have achieved!

    I was appalled. How can they let him say this? What is this garbage? How can society allow this garbage to be fed to their kids?
    What is his POINT?
    That we owe something to Black people? To make us feel better? The whole presentation was terrible…. No actual logic, everything Pathos. The achievements of the Blacks, their History.
    Why does society allow this? How is this appropriate? What are we supposed to think? Listening to it made my blood boil with rage- Why discuss it with school students?
    What is their POINT?

    I still can’t believe the words that were uttered in that room.

    • I cheered when Obama won. I am white. I’ve never owned a slave or lynched anyone. I dont believe that black people are thuggy rappers but I do believe that thuggy rappers are. Some black people like to push the old stereotypes into today’s society and I think I would not like that very much if I were black.

    • Why is it always a problem when African American people display pride for their race and their accomplishments….but its okay for other races to do it?! Forever hating on the black man….and it is always obvious, so yes….your hatred is always exposed!

  76. Exactly. They say we have no national language but what language was our Constitution written in? Speaking a foreign language is not a job skill. Can’t type? Too bad. I love that our country is so diverse but we speak English so discriminating against those who do should be illegal.

    • All people are different, at one point in time I lived in Virginia in a predominantly black community, and I was a white high school student. Honestly, most of my friends were black. I enjoyed the culture that they brought. They would joke around constantly. Obviously, the people I knew and the people you have been around are very different. What you have to remember is that it is not just about them personally, but the community in a whole that will have an effect on the individual’s personality. So, if a community of black people all believe that behaving like that is justified, that will continue to make others growing up in that community believe the same. Individuals may be different, or the same, it is up to you whether to look at the glass half full or half empty. If you can, you should leave that community when you go to college. After leaving that community, you will be able to see other communities and their culture, so that you can make your own comparison.

  77. My name is Miranda. I am a 16 year old girl, White, Northern European by blood, born in Southern California.
    As a teen, I am rather new to the world, and I am just now beginning to become familiar with how the world is, and how it works.

    Being in Southern California, I live in a majority of Hispanic people. White people are the minority.
    Over the years, I am beginning to notice the distinct, obvious differences between the people.

    I used to think that it was just culture. That, the people were just raised to be how they are. I thought that it was their parents’ fault, that they were not brought into the world properly. I thought that it was the child’s family’s culture that influenced them, and made them act the way they are.
    I was raised, and taught that everyone was the same. I was taught that everyone has a chance. I was raised to believe that color was only skin deep. It was on the inside that matters. Not the race; the individual.

    However, I can’t help but notice things. I can’t help but notice their illogical behavior. I can’t help but notice their irrational way of thinking. The way they talk, the way they dress, the people they associate with. How trashy they are. How awkwardly social they are.

    Lately, I’ve been thinking very deeply about these internal racial issues I’m having with myself. I keep thinking to myself, if it’s their culture and how they were raised, or if it is their actual race.
    Since I live where I live, I come across situations where I am in conflict with a said ghetto Hispanic/Black person frequently. This further drives me into confusion as I try to make a conclusion about what really makes sense.

    Very recently, I have had one of these encounters.
    I was at the San Diego Wild Animal Park. I was on the tram ride, getting a tour of the safari animals. My aunt next to me had just gotten off of her phone. Two rows in front of us, the ghetto lady, said out loud, “Thanks for getting off your phone.” The remark was obviously sarcastic. My aunt replied in the form of an apology, as she was being polite. My brother, next to me, also said out loud, “That was rude!” At that, the ghetto girl turns around, and mouths off at my brother and my aunt. I, silently, make a ‘shh’ gesture to her. Then the ghetto girl turns to me, and says to my FACE, in front of her own children, “You need to shut the **** up!” I told her that, “I am not doing anything to you.” But, she just talked over me, with a smart look on her face, in front of everyone there, telling me to shut the **** up over and over again. She mouthed off to us, in such a rude, condescending, way, that I was bewildered moved to tears.
    It was not just the fact that she was treating me that way. It was also the fact that so many people are like that.It was also the fact that we were white, because she was so immaturely rude to us, and no one else. It was the fact that she was an adult, and she behaved like a spoiled child; that she treated me, a teenager, with such disrespect. An adult.

    I have been treated this way by so many ghetto people. It’s always them, that never fail to be rude. No other white person is ever that irrationally rude to me.

    I don’t know what to think anymore. I don’t know if it’s their race. But that day, whenever I remember what she did; it makes my blood boil with rage.

    Is it their race? I need help. But I’ve had no one to reach out to. No one I know right now would offer me help like this.

    • Hi Miranda, You’re young, so you really don’t understand the reality of racism, the only reality that you will understand at this point is the perspective of someone else. But yes…some people do have chips on their shoulder…especially minorities, because of the constant hatred that they endure at the hands of wicked-racist people…so I guess they are only human, right? But for the most part, that’s only true for a small percentage of people (minorities)…regardless of what some liars and haters would want you to believe. Most people are kind and decent, and we give the same common courtesy and respect that’s given unto us. So please don’t allow yourself to be brainwashed by those who hate and kill….give yourself a chance to be a fair, normal person. Don’t make the mistake of generalizing an entire race, based on the wrong- doings of a few, because generalizing is verrrry invalid to say the least! Don’t let the plague of hatred creep into your reality because it will cost you in the long run. Rise above, and be the hope of the future….good luck to you :)

    • black girls are ashamed of their hair simply and their skin and their bodies only because they have low self-esteem. Because it’s certainly not as if we live in a Eurocentric culture that props up all things of the caucasian persuasion as the end-all-be-all standard of excellence. It’s not like we live in a society where black women lose their jobs on television (Look up Judge Ephraim from Divorce Court) or from corporate positions for wearing their hair too “ethnic.” So it’s not as if black women can simply wear their hair natural in this society and not catch hell for it. Let’s not forget it, it wasn’t that long ago when Don Imus called a group of young black women a bunch of nappy-headed hoes and was actually defended.

    • I’m 17 years old and I know what you’re going through. You’re going through the first part of the great awakening. I went through the same thing, but in a different scenario.

      Race creates culture. If you don’t have Europeans in Europe, you won’t have European culture. If you don’t have Whites in America, you don’t have traditional American culture. A Race’s DNA makes culture, literally.

      You’re seeing this because other races, besides East Asians, have a small neo-cortex compared to us Whites. The Neocortex is the front part of the brain, which generates motor communication, reasoning, rational thought and language. As a result, their IQ levels, on average, are below us. The smartest Black men is as smart as the average White man. Black people also have higher testosterone levels than Whites, thus increasing their aggression levels. It’s called the “thug” gene. Only Black people have the gene. Even half Blacks, or even a 25% or 10% African descent person can have the gene. Even Mestizos have it. This is what you don’t hear in school, or anywhere. This is a conspiracy to destroy the White European race. White people are culturally and genetically ‘sorry’ and want to help other people, and our enemies are taking advantage of it. They are using the ‘know the enemy’ technique and are attempting to use our people’s weaknesses against us. Who wouldn’t want to kill an enemy who doesn’t fight back, or make any noticeable resistance? Especially if the enemy has a history of breeding mighty warriors, intelligent scientists, great artists and architects, great leaders? No sane person would want to face resistance from the White European race.

      Read around, learn things. You will learn many things from this website. Be careful at all times. I don’t mean be paranoid, but I mean be alert at all times. Anything can happen, any day. Chances are low, but things DO happen, and it could happen to you. Stay in school, go to college and get a degree in a useful field, such as the medical field.

    • All people are different, at one point in time I lived in Virginia in a predominantly black community, and I was a white high school student. Honestly, most of my friends were black. I enjoyed the culture that they brought. They would joke around constantly. Obviously, the people I knew and the people you have been around are very different. What you have to remember is that it is not just about them personally, but the community in a whole that will have an effect on the individual’s personality. So, if a community of black people all believe that behaving like that is justified, that will continue to make others growing up in that community believe the same. Individuals may be different, or the same, it is up to you whether to look at the glass half full or half empty. If you can, you should leave that community when you go to college. After leaving that community, you will be able to see other communities and their culture, so that you can make your own comparison.

  78. For the entirety of my life, I was taught to respect every person as if they were my equal. Whenever it came to Gays, Lesbians, Blacks, Hispanics, no matter the race, creed, origin of heritage, or sexuality…I should treat the person as any other. This is what my parents taught me. Well over the years I have been confronted by real life situations that contradict such an open minded attitude. For instance, I would notice, even as a child, the linguistic differences between myself and a black student. I could not help but wonder if they were incapable of properly speaking the English Language. Later on, I would look at the people who are on government welfare. From my observation, they were almost always black. Sometimes I would attend bingo with my mom and dad. Whenever the food stand had any left over food, the person would had a first come first served mentality…and anyone could come get the leftover food for free. When she announced this, 100% of the black bingo players got out of their seats, rushed quickly to the stand, and began carrying four to five plates of food each. Perhaps I take an antiquated mindset but such a feeling of entitlement bothered me. This did nothing to my mindset, however, as I had always been treated right by the black man, excluding a few chance incidences.

    Recently, I got a job at a local food shop. My mentor for the position was a large, overweight black woman. She was very mean. Looking back, I can tell that she was doing more to harm me than to actually teach me the job. She was very unscrupulous. She would drop food on the floor and pick it back up so that the customers would eat it. She would pick out of the food little morsels and eat them. That was food meant for the customers. She really made my life a living hell though. If I did anything wrong, she would yell at me and call me names. If I stood my ground, she would yell even louder and act as if she was going to assault me. The employees of the store next door would always come over and ask what the yelling was about. I finally requested not to be scheduled with her. A month later, she was fired after allegedly assaulting the manager and the police arrived.

    There is a black man at this job also. He is very critical of me, even though we were hired in the same time period. (I was hired a week before him) He is a pedophile and cannot go back to his old state because he has outstanding warrants. He constantly asks customers for cigarettes, sex, drugs, you name it. One day he borrowed my phone (with my permission) and dropped it. He lightly pieced it back together and hid it. Once I found it, I told him he would have to pay me $50 of the $100 that a new phone would cost. I haven’t yet seen that money. He too has made my life hell and people know that we don’t like each other.

    Then, finally, a new black employee was hired not three weeks ago. He was nice at first. But as I was speaking to a nice white co-worker, he became offended at something I had said. It wasn’t particularly offensive, from my point of view. I had told the co-worker that it is important not to rush out of school (she is 16) because then she would end up at a bad job for the rest of your life. This sent the new black guy into a rage. He said “I’m tired of your bull, you racists, saying that the black man can’t get a good job.” At which point he came right over to my face and spat in it. He put his chest in to me, as if he was ready to fight me. His eyes looked at me, soulless, more like those of an animal. He had went from civilized human being to wild predator in one instance. He backed me into a corner, and I ran out of the store, my store, my place of employment, and he followed me all the way out. He said “I’ll beat your ass!” He went on about how he will make me bleed and so on.

    Ever since then, I haven’t quite been the same. I’m very cautious around blacks. My parents have even noticed a difference, as I seem to point out the worst in the blacks. I will liken them to perhaps a kind of primate. Because, that what I saw that day.

    So that is where I am at. My parents condemn me and say I am racist for my views. I ask them “Remember that one time we were walking down the street at night, and two black men were walking as well, so we crossed to the other side of the side walk….why did you do that if you too were not racist?” They do not understand. I’m not even sure about anything right now. I’m scheduled to go back to work Friday. But that thought. The thought of having to work with another black man. To have to serve a black man his food, and serve black customers. It fills me with rage and disgust.

    I was going to join a group of white males, like a racist group, but my parents don’t think I should. Plus, I don’t think we have any in this region.

    Are these feelings or hate normal? Is this a common experience? I just don’t know what to do. I don’t even want to go to work or go back to my senior year. Because they feel me with Rage.

  79. By 2060 Latinos will be nearly one of every three Americans, according to the latest Census report released today. As the immigration and globalization expert Marcelo Suarez-Orozco said to the Associated Press, “the fastest growing demographic is the children of immigrants.” Even though immigration and birth rates have slowed down significantly, Latino and other minority children are now almost half of all schoolchildren k-12, and they are the majority of students in states like Texas and California.
    “How Hispanic youth come of age and what types of education and jobs they get will have implications for how the country will be in 2060,” says Mark Hugo Lopez, Associate Director of the Pew Hispanic Center.
    As jobs increasingly require more education and technical skills, some argue we are not focusing our efforts — and dollars — in the right direction.
    “My mother always said to me show me how you are spending your money and I’ll show you your priorities,” says Julian Vasquez Heilig, Associate Professor of Educational Policy and Planning, at the University of Texas, at Austin. ”Texas cut 5.4 billion dollars from their budget two years ago, yet the majority of growth in student population has been among Latino students,” says Dr. Heilig. ”A lot of the policy solutions — like increased voucher schools, which reduce education funding by 50 percent and put more of the burden on churches, for example — don’t invest in our kids,” he says.
    Florida has also cut funding, says Heilig, and though the state points to 4th grade scores which are better than in other states, “it’s how Latino children perform on the ACT and SAT’s, and whether they graduate from high school, that matters, and here, the numbers are low,” she says.
    Stella Rouse, an Assistant Professor in the Department of Government and Politics, says legislators are not focusing on what she considers to be the most pressing issue. ”We have been talking about politics and immigration, but education needs to be our number one priority. I think the mindset of politicians has not shifted to match the focus of where the demographics are going,” says Dr. Rouse.
    Rouse says policies are not reflecting the fact these demographic changes are basically around the corner. ”We’re talking 30 years from now,” says Rouse.
    The Latina political scientist says we are at a crossroads. “Either we are not going to put the resources in to educate our children and not compete in the global market, or we will come to our senses to achieve a competitive, multicultural society,” Rouse says.
    A New York Times article today points to the fact that in California, the state spends about 10 percent of its budget on jails, while the share of spending on higher education is below 8 percent. So while the California universities have had to raise tuition, the cost to house an inmate is about $50,000 a year. Thirty years ago it was a different story; California spent 10 percent on higher education then and 3 percent on prisons.
    Rouse argues Latinos should use their power in numbers to push for great reallocation of resources — but as a unified front. ”When political strength is fractionalized, people can ignore us,” she says. “I worry from a research standpoint if we stay reactive, and not proactive — minorities are becoming majorities in a 30 years from now, that’s not a lot of time when you think how slowly policy changes.”

    • All those American-born Hispanic children will have an advantage over whites and blacks because they will be bilingual. It seems that American born bilingual children will become an ethnicity that is going to face a lot of hostility because of this advantage they have. The bitter pill for white people to swallow is that all these children are American born citizens.

  80. The study and knowledge of another language has a great deal of influence on the economy of the U.S. and on international trade.
    Each year, 200,000 Americans lose out on jobs with business because they do not know another language.
    Additionally, one third of all the corporations in the U.S. are either owned or based abroad.
    One out of every six production job in the U.S. depends on foreign trade.
    One half of the top profit making companies on Fortune magazine’s “500″ list are foreign controlled.
    Four out of five new jobs in the United States are created as a result of foreign trade.
    The majority of American employers, according to a national survey, consider the command of a foreign language a useful skill.
    Fifty percent of all the jobs for the 21st century have not been created yet. What is known is that communication will be central to the majority of these jobs.
    In NC alone there are over 1,000 international firms. The United Kingdom, Germany, Japan, and France have the largest number of firms.
    According to the Kiplinger Washington Editors (1996), the Hispanic share of the workforce will increase by 25 percent by 2010. Asians, around 50 percent. Minorities will keep moving up the corporate ladder in the next 15 years. Managers who know how to deal with a diverse workforce will have an edge.
    “The workplace of tomorrow is a world of many cultures and languages …with new forms of global commerce we can’t even imagine today” (Kiplinger Washington Editors, 1996).
    Bilingualism…

    Has a positive effect on intellectual growth.
    Enriches and enhances mental development.
    Leaves students with more flexibility in thinking, greater sensitivity to language, and a better ear for listening.
    Improves one’s understanding of his/her native language.
    Gives a person the ability to communicate with people s/he would otherwise not have the chance to know.
    Opens the door to other cultures and helps one to understand and appreciate people from other countries.
    Gives a student a head start in language requirements for college.
    Increase job opportunity in many careers where knowing another language is a real asset.

    • Being Bilingual is a skill. Something THAT IS LEARNED! you’re not born knowing english fool! so its not #@$%& up DISCRIMINATION like discriminating against something people are born with like race. and btw those people coming into this country are pretty &%@!$% desperate for a better life.. the reality is you’ve had everything you’ve needed to succeed within walking distance your entire life and could not possibly imagine what its like to not have those opportunities.

      OPEN YOUR *$#@!*& MIND!
      and may you find peace.

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  82. The Presidential Election revealed that black people are no longer in power as the main minority group in America. The show was heated as many listeners called in to voice their opinion on the new numbers. Have Blacks lost their power to Latinos??

    Read the article below and take a listen to the show.

    There are many lessons embedded in President Obama’s reelection victory, but for me, this comment from Obama during a pre-election interview with the Des Moines Register comes to mind:

    And since this is off the record, I will just be very blunt. Should I win a second term, a big reason I will win a second term is because the Republican nominee and the Republican Party have so alienated the fastest-growing demographic group in the country, the Latino community. And this is a relatively new phenomenon.

    He predicted it exactly. Although it is true that Latinos are the largest growing ethnic group, it is just as true that they’re not nearly as dependable a voting bloc for Democrats as blacks.

    George W. Bush received a record setting share of the Latino vote in 2000 and 2004. Romney did not, and while much of this has to do with Romney’s decision not to reach out to the Latino community, it also touches on how swayable the Latino electorate is, especially when compared to the African-American community.

    While the African-American community refuses to look twice at the GOP, no matter what, and for good reason, Latino voters seem to have a much more ‘what’s in it for me’ way of thinking when it comes to voting. Obama delivered on the DREAM Act, gave Latinos a Supreme Court justice, and challenged Arizona’s apartheid styled ‘show me your papers’ law, which bought him some goodwill from Latino voters. By offering real solutions to real problems facing, the Obama administration exchanged action for votes in the Latino community.

    It is doubly ironic that, even with a black president, Latinos are valued more than blacks.

    But what of the black community? Blacks aren’t really in the business of exchange. We’re in the business of doing the right thing because our ancestors died for it. That may be all well and good, and it may make you feel all warm and fuzzy, but it’s not a winning strategy for getting what you want in the political sphere.

    As other groups, such as the LGBT and Latino communities, entrench their positions under the big tent of the Democratic party, it is essential that the black community shift its strategy to a more t*t for tat, you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours, form of political gamesmanship.

    The logical thing to do is to make ourselves available to all politicians. If the GOP wants our vote, and they’re actually in desperate need of a little brown sugar in their coffee, then they should be willing to open the gates to free market opportunities which benefit blacks. How about an increase in the number of small business administration loans geared to African Americans? We could start there, then we could talk start -ups and other free market solutions to solve unemployment in the black community? And the same goes for Democrats. Want our votes? Then tell us what’s on the table. This is pay to play, and blacks having been playing for no pay for far too long. We’re owed a check. It’s time we get it.

  83. Why don’t these folks just LEARN Spanish? I’m a white, Scotch-Irish person, and I’m really enjoying learning the beautiful Spanish language in my car. I have a long way to go, but I intend to become fluent some day, and am greatly enjoying the process.

    • Your comment is besides the point “learn”. Are you graduating with a master’s degree in NYC (with over $100K in student loan debt) and finding out that you can’t get a job in the non-profit or even government sector without knowing Spanish? We are no longer limiting this conversation to individual business hiring preferences, hoping that the long run equilibrium of the free markets will eventually even the playing field. I am a former immigrant to this country, already speak another language and by god, I thought that learning English to live in the U.S. should be sufficient enough; I guess I was wrong.

      So by all means, go and be merry while learning another language but I think you would be singing to a much different tune if your livelihood was threatened by not being bilingual in the “right” type of language.

  84. I am an artist born in California to Puerto Rican parents and my work is very influenced by my culture. However, my parent’s didn’t speak to me in Spanish and my mother told me she asked me when i was six if I wanted to learn the language but I said no so it’s my fault! I have been uncomfortable with the Spanish language ever since.
    Recently, I was in an art exhibit of Latina woman. This exhibit was reported on Univision. I was invited by the curator to speak about my work. I asked the curator if this would be a problem as I do not speak Spanish. The curator thought it would not be a problem and encouraged me to come along with artists. When the Latina reporter arrived she announced that the interviews would be held in Spanish. The other artists told me they would translate for me when I was interviewed. The curator of the exhibit was interviewed first and asked the reporter if I could be interviewed next with the help of one of the artists translating. The reporter (in front of me) responded to the curator in Spanish saying no I could not be interviewed and that the interviews were only for Latinas. The curator was surprised and I was shocked and offended because I understand Spanish so I left. This is what Latinos that don’t speak Spanish have to put up with.

  85. “You’re not African American, you’re American. You guys just say African American so you can have some relation to Africa.”

    These are the words that were spoken to me from a Nigerian lady that I attended college with. It was hurtful to hear her say this. I have traveled to Zambia twice and the first time was challenging. In a debriefing session I explained to the white people on the trip, that my entire life I had been told that I am African American, and here I was in Africa and had no culture to call my own. When a man in the market realized that I couldn’t speak Bemba he told my Zambian host that I should be ashamed of myself for not knowing my language. He didn’t know that I wasn’t from Zambia, because everything about me along with the rest of the African American community screams Africa. While in Zambia, I noticed how the people looked just like African Americans back home. It was very evident that African Americans are from Africa.

    There are two major problems at hand: not enough African Americans acknowledge that they are Africans and not enough Africans acknowledge that African Americans are African. I’m sure growing up we have all heard the “You look like you African” jokes. Well that cruel joke has followed us to adulthood. How can a Black person look like an African, when they are African? And why is that meant to be offensive? I will admit that it wasn’t until after my voyage to the Motherland, that I began to take ownership of my African roots. What’s weird is when I say that I’m African around African Americans that know me, they look at me like I’m crazy and question me. I respond by saying “You’re African too!”

    On the other hand I have heard Africans speak like the Nigerian lady who told me that I wasn’t African. Is the history of slavery not enough explanation on how we separated from our homeland? That isn’t American history; it’s African and American history. There are African Americans like myself who have gone through major identity crisis’ and struggled over the fact that we have no knowledge of what country in Africa we came from. Just because we weren’t born in Africa, don’t strip us of our African identity and heritage.

    What frustrates me is I can see how the media has played a crucial role in dividing us. In America they have presented Africa to us as the Dark Continent with uncivilized people. To an extent we have believed everything we’ve seen on television. I remember on my first trip to Africa I was scared that some random men were going to break into the house I was staying and rape me. How crazy is that? In Africa they have presented African Americans as all being uneducated, rappers, thugs, and hoes. It was very irritating when the Africans would try to use slang with me. The media alone has caused us to form stereotypes about each other.

    This is an issue that frequently comes up in my diverse circle of friends, so I wanted to share it with you guys. I leave you with this question:

    At what point did African Americans stop being African? When we got off the slave ship?

    • Hi Jon….so sad to learn of your bad luck, but this is exactly the type of nonsense that should not happen to the American People in America! I am flabbergasted at the nerve of those people and the way that they treated you! I hope that you can soon land a new position….best of luck!

    • My doctor is from Africa, she became a US citizen recently. As she stated ” America is completely racist on so many levels, being born and raised in Africa, I cant officially lable myself as Africa-America, because I white , While blacks can take this title and run with , even though they have no connection to that country what so ever, other then the color of their skin. “

      • Hi Rob…..just to clarify for you, as an African-American, our connections are the color of our skin, and our ancestral roots. Our African-American race originated from Africa…therefore, it is our prerogative to identify with our ancestors….or is that a crime? Furthermore, being that we were kidnapped and brought over to this country, and were robbed of our heritage, our culture and our roots, many of us choose to refer to ourselves as African-American as a means of identity…to affirm that we are indeed Black and proud of our race and culture…and that’s basically the bottom line…have a great day! :)

  86. I moved from Carlsbad, NM to El Paso, TX. I am a student going to college, and I am white and don’t know any Spanish. I ended up having to call the corporation of my last job in Carlsbad at Arbys to get a job, which the area supervisor still did not want to hire me because I didn’t know Spanish. The area supervisor handles how many hours I am allowed. I worked almost every day for around 6 hours a day in Carlsbad, NM. Here in El Paso, TX, I work 4 hours a day 2 days a week. I am the only white person working here, and the area supervisor hires people who live in Juarez or moved from there that ONLY know Spanish. I have tried to find jobs in other places for the last half year I have been working here to no avail. If I had stayed in Carlsbad I would have been hired from the first day to be trained as a shift manager. Here, you have to be bilingual to an extent to have any management position.

  87. Also, I am not a fan on how the replies work for this site. I tried to reply to Miranda’s post 3 times, twice it was put for the person under her and once for the person above her.

  88. Until recently I taught at a predominantly
    black high school in a southeastern
    state.

    The mainstream press gives a hint of
    what conditions are like in black schools,
    but only a hint. Expressions journalists
    use like “chaotic” or “poor learning
    environment” or “lack of discipline” do
    not capture what really happens. There
    is nothing like the day-to-day experience
    of teaching black children and that is
    what I will try to convey.

    Most whites simply do not know what
    black people are like in large numbers,
    and the first encounter can be a shock.

    One of the most immediately striking
    things about my students was that they
    were loud. They had little conception of
    ordinary decorum. It was not unusual
    for five blacks to be screaming at
    me at once. Instead of calming down and
    waiting for a lull in the din to make their
    point—something that occurs to even
    the dimmest white students—blacks just
    tried to yell over each other.

    It did no good to try to quiet them, and
    white women were particularly inept at
    trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as
    she begged the children to pipe down.
    They just yelled louder so their voices
    would carry over hers.

    Many of my black students would
    repeat themselves over and over again—
    just louder. It was as if they suffered
    from Tourette syndrome. They seemed
    to have no conception of waiting for
    an appropriate time to say something.
    They would get ideas in their heads and
    simply had to shout them out. I might be
    leading a discussion on government and
    suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get
    more Democrats! Clinton, she good!”
    The student may seem content with that
    outburst but two minutes later, he would
    suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton
    good!”

    Anyone who is around young blacks
    will probably get a constant diet of rap music.
    Blacks often make up their own jingles,
    and it was not uncommon for 15 black
    boys to swagger into a classroom,
    bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.

    They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of
    words in the same harsh, rasping dialect.
    The words were almost invariably
    a childish form of boasting: “Who got
    dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe,
    who got dem shine grill (gold and silver
    dental caps)?” The amateur rapper usually
    ends with a claim—in the crudest
    terms imaginable—that all womankind
    is sexually devoted to him. For whatever
    reason, my students would often groan
    instead of saying a particular word, as in,
    “She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long
    grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh,
    she lick dat aaaahhh.”

    So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom,
    on the chairs, next to the chairs, under
    the chairs, everywhere. Once I took a
    call on my cell phone and had to step
    outside of class. I was away about two
    minutes but when I got back the black
    girls had lined up at the front of the
    classroom and were convulsing to the
    delight of the boys.

    Many black people, especially black
    women, are enormously fat. Some are
    so fat I had to arrange special seating to
    accommodate their bulk. I am not saying
    there are no fat white students—there
    are—but it is a matter of numbers and
    attitudes. Many black girls simply do not
    care that they are fat. There are plenty
    of white anorexics, but I have never met
    or heard of a black anorexic.

    “Black women be big Mr. Jackson,”
    my students would explain.

    “Is it okay in the black community to
    be a little overweight?” I ask.
    Two obese black girls in front of
    my desk begin to dance, “You know
    dem boys lak juicy fruit, Mr. Jackson.”
    “Juicy” is a colorful black expression
    for the buttocks.

    Blacks, on average, are the most directly critical
    people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid.
    Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike
    whites, who tread gingerly around the
    subject of race, they can be brutally to
    the point. Once I needed to send a student
    to the office to deliver a message. I
    asked for volunteers, and suddenly you
    would think my classroom was a bastion
    of civic engagement. Thirty dark hands
    shot into the air. My students loved to
    leave the classroom and slack off, even
    if just for a few minutes, away from the
    eye of white authority. I picked a light-skinned
    boy to deliver the message. One
    very black student was indignant: “You
    pick da half-breed.” And immediately
    other blacks take up the cry, and half
    a dozen mouths are screaming, “He
    half-breed.”

    For decades, the country has been
    lamenting the poor academic performance
    of blacks and there is much to
    lament. There is no question, however,
    that many blacks come to school with a
    serious handicap that is not their fault.
    At home they have learned a dialect that
    is almost a different language. Blacks
    not only mispronounce words; their
    grammar is often wrong. When a black
    wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?”
    he may actually say “Whar da badroom
    be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent
    of “Where the bathroom is?” And
    this is the way they speak in high school.
    Students write the way they speak, so
    this is the language that shows up in
    written assignments.

    It is true that some whites face a
    similar handicap. They speak with
    what I would call a “country” accent
    that is hard to reproduce but results in
    sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme
    a Coke.” Some of these country whites
    had to learn correct pronunciation and
    usage. The difference is that most whites
    overcome this handicap and learn to
    speak correctly; many blacks do not.

    Most of the blacks I taught simply
    had no interest in academic subjects. I
    taught history, and students would often
    say they didn’t want to do an assignment
    or they didn’t like history because it was
    all about white people. Of course, this
    was “diversity” history, in which every
    cowboy’s black cook got a special page
    on how he contributed to winning the
    West, but black children still found it
    inadequate. So I would throw up my
    hands and assign them a project on a
    real, historical black person. My favorite
    was Marcus Garvey. They had never
    heard of him, and I would tell them to
    research him, but they never did. They
    didn’t care and they didn’t want to do
    any work.

    Anyone who teaches blacks soon
    learns that they have a completely different
    view of government from whites.
    Once I decided to fill 25 minutes by
    having students write about one thing
    the government should do to improve
    America. I gave this question to three
    classes totaling about 100 students,
    approximately 80 of whom were black.
    My few white students came back with
    generally “conservative” ideas. “We
    need to cut off people who don’t work,”
    was the most common suggestion.
    Nearly every black gave a variation on
    the theme of “We need more government
    services.”

    My students had only the vaguest
    notion of who pays for government
    services. For them, it was like a magical
    piggy bank that never goes empty. One
    black girl was exhorting the class on
    the need for more social services and I
    kept trying to explain that people, real
    live people, are taxed for the money to
    pay for those services. “Yeah, it come
    from whites,” she finally said. “They
    stingy anyway.”

    “Many black people make over
    $50,000 dollars a year and you would
    also be taking away from your own
    people,” I said.

    She had an answer to that: “Dey
    half breed.” The class agreed. I let the
    subject drop.

    Many black girls are perfectly happy
    to be welfare queens. On career day, one
    girl explained to the class that she was
    going to have lots of children and get fat
    checks from the government. No one in
    the class seemed to have any objection
    to this career choice.

    Surprising attitudes can come out in
    class discussion. We were talking about
    the crimes committed in the aftermath of
    Hurricane Katrina, and I brought up the
    rape of a young girl in the bathroom of
    the Superdome. A majority of my students
    believed this was a horrible crime
    but a few took it lightly. One black boy
    spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat
    no big deal. They thought they is gonna
    die so they figured they have some fun.
    Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you
    know what I’m sayin’?” A few black
    heads nodded in agreement.

    My department head once asked all
    the teachers to get a response from all
    students to the following question: “Do
    you think it is okay to break the law if it
    will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had
    been teaching for a while and was not
    surprised by answers that left a young,
    liberal, white woman colleague aghast.
    “Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one
    student explained, “Get dat green.”

    There is a level of conformity among
    blacks that whites would find hard to
    believe. They like one kind
    of music: rap. They will
    vote for one political party:
    Democrat. They dance
    one way, speak one way,
    are loud the same way,
    and fail their exams in the
    same way. Of course, there
    are exceptions but they
    are rare.

    Whites are different.
    Some like country music,
    others heavy metal, some
    prefer pop, and still others,
    God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have
    different associations, groups, almost
    ideologies. There are jocks, nerds,
    preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all—
    well—black, and they are quick to let
    other blacks know when they deviate
    from the norm.

    One might object that there are important
    group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I
    have done my best to find them, but so
    far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk
    the same, think the same. Certainly, they
    form rival groups, but the groups are not
    different in any discernible way. There
    simply are no groups of blacks that are
    as distinctly different from each other
    as white “nerds,” “hunters,” or “Goths,”
    for example.

    How the world looks to blacks
    One point on which all blacks agree
    is that everything is “racis’.” This is
    one message of liberalism they have
    absorbed completely. Did you do your
    homework? “Na, homework racis’.”
    Why did you get an F on the test? “Test
    racis’.”

    I was trying to teach a unit on British
    philosophers and the first thing the students
    noticed about Bentham, Hobbes,
    and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da
    black philosopher a’?” I tried to explain
    there were no blacks in eighteenth century
    Britain. You can probably guess
    what they said to that: “Dat racis’!”
    One student accused me of deliberately
    failing him on a test because I
    didn’t like black people.

    “Do you think I really hate black
    people?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Have I done anything to make you
    feel this way? How do you know?”
    “You just do.”
    “Why do you say that?”

    He just smirked, looked out the window,
    and sucked air through his teeth.
    Perhaps this was a regional thing, but
    the blacks often sucked air through their
    teeth as a wordless expression of disdain
    or hostility.

    My students were sometimes unable
    to see the world except through the lens
    of their own blackness. I had a class
    that was host to a German exchange
    student. One day he put on a Power Point
    presentation with famous German landmarks
    as well as his school and family.

    From time to time during the presentation,
    blacks would scream, “Where da
    black folk?!” The exasperated German
    tried several times to explain that there
    were no black people where he lived in
    Germany. The students did not believe
    him. I told them Germany is in Europe,
    where white people are from, and Africa
    is where black people are from. They
    insisted that the German student was
    racist, and deliberately refused to associate
    with blacks.

    Blacks are keenly interested in
    their own racial characteristics. I have
    learned, for example, that some blacks
    have “good hair.” Good hair is black
    parlance for black-white hybrid hair.
    Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to
    style, and considered more attractive.
    Blacks are also proud of light skin.
    Imagine two black students shouting
    insults across the room. One is dark
    but slim; the other light and obese. The
    dark one begins the exchange: “You
    fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look
    at his detractor, shakes his head like a
    wobbling top, and says, “You wish you
    light skinned.”

    They could go on like this, repeating
    the same insults over and over.

    My black students had nothing but
    contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They
    would vent their feelings so crudely
    that our department strongly advised us
    never to talk about immigration in class
    in case the principal or some outsider
    might overhear.

    Whites were “racis’,” of course, but
    they thought of us at least as Americans.
    Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain,
    not necessarily hostile understanding of
    white people. They know how whites
    act, and it is clear they believe whites
    are smart and are good at organizing
    things. At the same time, they probably
    suspect whites are just putting on an
    act when they talk about equality, as if
    it is all a sham that makes it easier for
    whites to control blacks. Blacks want a
    bigger piece of the American pie. I’m
    convinced that if it were up to them
    they would give whites a considerably
    smaller piece than whites get now, but
    they would give us something. They
    wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.

    What about black boys and white
    girls? No one is supposed to
    notice this or talk about it but
    it is glaringly obvious: Black
    boys are obsessed with white
    girls. I’ve witnessed the following
    drama countless times. A black
    boy saunters up to a white
    girl. The cocky black dances
    around her, not really in a menacing
    way. It’s more a shuffle
    than a threat. As he bobs and
    shuffles he asks, “When you
    gonna go wit’ me?”

    There are two kinds of reply.
    The more confident white
    girl gets annoyed, looks away
    from the black and shouts, “I don’t wanna
    go out with you!” The more demure
    girl will look at her feet and mumble
    a polite excuse but ultimately say no.

    There is only one response from the
    black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls—all
    too many—actually feel guilty because
    they do not want to date blacks. Most
    white girls at my school stayed away
    from blacks, but a few, particularly the
    ones who were addicted to drugs, fell
    in with them.

    There is something else that is striking
    about blacks. They seem to have
    no sense of romance, of falling in love.
    What brings men and women together is
    sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude
    openness about this. There are many degenerate
    whites, of course, but some of
    my white students were capable of real
    devotion and tenderness, emotions that
    seemed absent from blacks—especially
    the boys.

    Black schools are violent and the
    few whites who are too poor to escape
    are caught in the storm. The violence is
    astonishing, not so much that it happens,
    but the atmosphere in which it happens.
    Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly
    content with what they are doing,
    having a good time, and then, suddenly
    start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long
    ago, I was walking through the halls
    and a group of black boys were walking
    in front of me. All of a sudden they
    started fighting with another group in
    the hallway.

    Blacks are extraordinarily quick to
    take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed
    a black boy’s white sneaker with my
    shoe. He immediately rubbed his body
    up against mine and threatened to attack
    me. I stepped outside the class and had
    a security guard escort the student to
    the office. It was unusual for students
    to threaten teachers physically this way,
    but among themselves, they were quick
    to fight for similar reasons.

    The real victims are the unfortunate
    whites caught in this. They are always
    in danger and their educations suffer.
    White weaklings are particularly susceptible,
    but mostly to petty violence. They
    may be slapped or get a couple of kicks
    when they are trying to open a bottom
    locker. Typically, blacks save the hard,
    serious violence for each other.

    There was a lot of promiscuous sex
    among my students and this led to
    violence. Black girls were constantly
    fighting over black boys. It was not uncommon
    to see two girls literally ripping
    each other’s hair out with a police officer
    in the middle trying to break up the
    fight. The black boy they were fighting
    over would be standing by with a smile,
    enjoying the show he had created. For
    reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom
    fought over girls.

    Pregnancy was common among the
    blacks, though many black girls were
    so fat I could not tell the difference. I
    don’t know how many girls got abortions,
    but when they had the baby they
    usually stayed in school and had their
    own parents look after the child. The
    school did not offer daycare.

    Aside from the police officers constantly
    on patrol, a sure sign that you
    My black students had
    nothing but contempt for
    Hispanics. Whites were
    “racis’,” of course, but
    they thought of us at least
    as Americans.

    Security guards are everywhere in
    black schools—we had one on every
    hall. They also sat in on unruly classes
    and escorted students to the office. They
    were unarmed, but worked closely with
    the three city police officers who were
    constantly on duty.

    There was a lot of drug-dealing at
    my school. This was a good way to
    make a fair amount of money but it
    also gave boys power over girls who
    wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black
    or white—became the plaything of anyone
    who could get her drugs.

    One of my students was a notorious
    drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was
    19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once
    he got a score of three out of 100 on a
    test. He had been locked up four times
    since he was 13.

    One day, I asked him, “Why do you
    come to school?”

    He wouldn’t answer. He just looked
    out the window, smiled, and sucked air
    through his teeth. His friend Yidarius
    ventured an explanation: “He get dat
    green and get dem females.”

    “What is the green?” I asked. “Money
    or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

    A very fat black interrupted from
    across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr.
    Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
    brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast
    and lunch poor students get every day.
    “Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’
    brickfuss!” shouts another student.

    Some readers may believe that I
    have drawn a cruel caricature of black
    students. After all, according to official
    figures some 85 percent of them graduate.
    It would be instructive to know how
    many of those scraped by with barely a
    C- record. They go from grade to grade
    and they finally get their diplomas
    because there is so much pressure on
    teachers to push them through. It saves
    money to move them along, the school
    looks good, and the teachers look good.

    Many of these children should have been
    failed, but the system would crack under
    their weight if they were all held back.

    How did my experiences make me
    feel about blacks? Ultimately, I lost
    sympathy for them. In so many ways
    they seem to make their own beds.
    There they were in an integrationist’s
    fantasy—in the same classroom with
    white students, eating the same lunch,
    using the same bathrooms, listening to
    the same teachers—and yet the blacks
    fail while the whites pass.

    One tragic outcome among whites
    who have been teaching for too long
    is that it can engender something close
    to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up
    fast food—not for health reasons but
    because where he lived most fast-food
    workers were black. He had enough of
    blacks on the job. This was an extreme
    example but years of frustration can
    take their toll. Many of my white colleagues
    with any experience were well
    on their way to that state of mind.

    There is an unutterable secret among
    teachers: Almost all realize that blacks
    do not respond to traditional white
    instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism?
    Not at all. It is what
    brings about endless, pointless innovation
    that is supposed to bring blacks up
    to the white level. The solution is more diversity—or put
    more generally, the solution is change.
    Change is an almost holy word in education,
    and you can fail a million times as
    long as you keep changing. That is why
    liberals keep revamping the curriculum
    and the way it is taught. For example,
    teachers are told that blacks need handson
    instruction and more group work.

    Teachers are told that blacks are more
    vocal and do not learn through reading
    and lectures. The implication is that they
    have certain traits that lend themselves
    to a different kind of teaching.

    Whites have learned a certain way for
    centuries but it just doesn’t work with
    blacks. Of course, this implies racial
    differences but if pressed, most liberal
    teachers would say different racial
    learning styles come from some indefinable
    cultural characteristic unique to
    blacks. Therefore, schools must change,
    America must change. But into what?
    How do you turn quantum physics into
    hands-on instruction or group work? No
    one knows, but we must keep changing
    until we find something that works.

    Public school has certainly changed
    since anyone reading this was a student.
    I have a friend who teaches elementary
    school, and she tells me that every week
    the students get a new diversity lesson,
    shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s
    office in Washington or the state
    capital. She showed me the materials
    for one week: a large poster,
    about the size of a forty-two inch
    flat-screen television. It shows
    an utterly diverse group—I mean
    diverse: handicapped, Muslim,
    Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich,
    brown, slightly brown, yellow,
    etc.—sitting at a table, smiling
    gaily, accomplishing some undefined
    task. The poster comes with
    a sheet of questions the teacher is
    supposed to ask. One might be: “These
    kids sure look different, but they look
    happy. Can you tell me which one in
    the picture is an American?”

    Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance,
    will point to a white child like
    himself. “That one.”

    The teacher reads from the answer,
    conveniently printed along with the
    question. “No, Billy, all these children
    are Americans. They are just as American
    as you.”

    The children get a snack, and the
    poster goes up on the wall until another
    one comes a week later. This is
    what happens at predominately white,
    middle-class, elementary schools everywhere.
    Elementary school teachers love All
    of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning
    children’s poet Arnold Adoff.

    These are some of the lines they read
    to the children: “Mama is chocolate …
    Daddy is vanilla … Me (sic) is better …
    It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For
    love. Sometimes blackness seems too
    black for me, and whiteness is too sickly
    pale; and I wish every one were golden.
    Remember: long ago before people
    moved and migrated, and mixed and
    matched … there was one people: one
    color, one race. The colors are flowing
    from what was before me to what will
    be after. All the colors.”

    Teaching as a career
    It may come as a surprise after what
    I have written, but my experiences have
    given me a deep appreciation for teaching
    as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class
    life but comes with the capacity
    to make real differences in the lives of
    children. In our modern, atomized world
    children often have very little communication
    with adults—especially, or even,
    with their parents—so there is potential
    for a real transaction between pupil and
    teacher, disciple and master.

    A rewarding relationship can grow
    up between an exceptional, interested
    student and his teacher. I have stayed in
    my classroom with a group of students
    discussing ideas and playing chess until
    the janitor kicked us out. I was the
    old gentleman, imparting my history,
    culture, personal loves and triumphs,
    defeats and failures to young kinsman.
    Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus,
    the Spartan poet, who counseled the
    youth to honor and loyalty. I never had
    this kind intimacy with a black student,
    and I know of no other white teacher
    who did.

    Teaching can be fun. For a certain
    kind of person it is exhilarating to map
    out battles on chalkboards, and teach
    heroism. It is rewarding to challenge
    liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on
    these children, but what I aimed for with
    my white students I could never achieve
    with the blacks.

    There is a kind of child whose look
    can melt your heart: some working-class
    castaway, in and out of foster homes,
    often abused, who is nevertheless almost
    an angel. Your heart melts for these children,
    this refuse of the modern world.

    Many white students possess a certain
    innocence; their cheeks still blush.
    Try as I might, I could not get the
    blacks to care one bit about Beethoven
    or Sherman’s march to the sea, or
    Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even
    liberals like John Rawls, or their own
    history. They cared about nothing I
    tried to teach them. When this goes on
    year after year it chokes the soul out
    of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and
    sends him guiltily searching for The Bell
    Curve on the Internet.

    Blacks break down the intimacy that
    can be achieved in the classroom, and
    leave you convinced that that intimacy
    is really a form of kinship. Without
    intending to, they destroy what is most
    beautiful—whether it be your belief in
    human equality, your daughter’s innocence,
    or even the state of the
    hallway.

    Just last year I read on the
    bathroom stall the words “F**k
    Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the
    same stall, was a small swastika.

    The National Council for the Social
    Studies, the leading authority on social
    science education in the United States,
    urges teachers to inculcate such values
    as equality of opportunity, individual
    property rights, and a democratic form
    of government. Even if teachers could
    inculcate this milquetoast ideology into
    whites, liberalism is doomed because so
    many non-whites are not receptive to
    education of any kind beyond the merest
    basics.

    It is impossible to
    get them to care about such abstractions
    as property rights or democratic citizenship.
    They do not see much further than
    the fact that you live in a big house and
    “we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a
    few loutish whites who will never think
    past their next meal and a few sensitive
    blacks for whom anything is possible,
    but no society takes on the characteristics
    of its exceptions.

    Once I asked my students, “What do
    you think of the Constitution?”
    “It white,” one slouching black rang
    out. The class began to laugh. And I
    caught myself laughing along with them,
    laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers,
    while the barbarians swell around
    the Palatine, while the country I love,
    and the job I love, and the community I
    love become dimmer by the day.

    I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian
    who visited Zimbabwe not
    too many years ago. Traveling with a
    companion, she stopped at a store along
    the highway. A black man materialized
    next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I)
    work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You
    give job.”

    “What happened to your old job?”
    the expatriate white asked. The black man replied in the straightforward
    manner of his race: “We drove
    out the whites. No more jobs. You give
    job.”

    At some level, my students understand
    the same thing. One day I asked
    the bored, black faces staring back
    at me. “What would happen if all the
    white people in America disappeared
    tomorrow?”

    “We screwed,” a young, pitch-black
    boy screamed back. The rest of the
    blacks laughed.

    I have had children tell me to my face
    as they struggled with an assignment. “I
    cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”The point is that human beings are not
    always rational. It is in the black man’s
    interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but
    he drives them out and starves. Most
    whites do not think black Americans
    could ever do anything so irrational.
    They see blacks on television smiling,
    fighting evil whites, embodying
    white values. But the real black is not
    on television, and you pull your purse
    closer when you see him, and you lock
    the car doors when he swaggers by
    with his pants hanging down almost to
    his knees.For those of you with children, better
    a smaller house in a white district than
    a fancy one near a black school.

    I have been in parent-teacher conferences
    that broke my heart: the child
    pleading with his parents to take him
    out of school; the parents convinced
    their child’s fears are groundless. If you
    love your child, show her you care—
    not by giving her fancy vacations or a
    car, but making her innocent years safe
    and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black
    school.

  89. Learn Spanish you lazy bums. Like it or not speaking a second language is a SKILL THAT ANYBODY COULD LEARN! Consuming your souls with anger and hatred is not going to make the established languages of the United States go away, Spanish is America’s de facto second language! Stop complaining and learn Spanish, or drown in your own puddle of hate, either way is fine….

    • There are several points that should be made:

      1) Spanish is the second most common language spoken in the US.

      2) Many part of the US were originally Spanish territories and retain the place names to prove it.

      3) Both Spanish and English were officially recognized as official languages in the Constitution of California, although it has since been amended to recognize only English–official materials, such as those for elections, are printed in several languages (English, Spanish, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese.)

      4) People will speak whatever language they want, whether it is official or not. Trying to force people to speak a particular language is a totalitarian act contrary to the freedoms advocated by our nation’s founders. However, there is a de facto standard of English maintained by both the government and business communities that is unlikely to change.

  90. My theory has been proven correct. All the racist, bigoted and simply evil comments toward Blacks in America proves that many out there have no regard for the citizen Black but are highly accepting of the non-citizen Hispanic. Many of you have no concern that it is and will be Blacks getting robbed of jobs, political clout and education due to this illegal grab of power. If there was a vote on what group to expel from the USA, all groups(Whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc.) would definitely choose Blacks to be rid of. I’m sure not all persons in each group dislike Blacks, but the disdain, ridicule and disrespect coming from many(not all) out there shows Blacks at this point in American history are seen as a lesser asset to the US than any other group.
    This conversation about being bilingual in order to get a job in many parts of the USA is bigger than just language, this is about society labeling one group as acceptable(illegal Hispanics) and the labeling another(Blacks) as an unwelcomed member of society. And as many Hispanic responders have proven, there is no Black and Brown coalition, there never was.
    Although many Americans are and will be negatively affected by this illegal immigrant and language issue, Blacks will prove to be the group hit the hardest, Black unemployment is the highest in the nation and will soon get worse.
    Many are saying those of us who are against this bilingual invasion on the US job market are the racist but by reading their post, you can see that they have zero concern for the legal US citizen, especially those of us who are Black.
    I knew based on talks with Hispanics but I hope many out there now see what I see, and that is that this non-caring for this bilingual-only-need-to-apply atmosphere is largely ignoring the deep repercussions it is having on many races of US citizens, especially Blacks. That ignoring is highly driven by racist sentiments toward Blacks.

    • In places like Portland Oregon, there are large communities of Hispanics. Many residents there speak mostly Spanish, some not learning English. Advertised jobs frequently require Spanish. So should Spanish be accepted as the US second language?
      The question regarding language is frequently in the news, including just within the past few weeks. Just recently ABC News examined President Obama’s assurance that illegal immigrants would not be insured under the new health care reform policies. But as the article pointed out under immigration reform those health care benefits could in fact be given to these undocumented immigrants. Obama has supported legislation that would allow immigrants to become legal residents and eventually citizens by meeting a series of requirements that includes, among other things, learning English. Yet in many places in the country applicants for jobs are required to be conversant not just in English but in Spanish as well.
      The Center for Applied Linguistics advocates children learning a language at an early age. It points out the various advantages of doing so that include expanding knowledge about other cultures, expanding children’s thinking and providing a head start for meeting the language requirements in college. Spanish learning is booming as more and more people write about the advantages of learning Spanish as a second language. The dominant reason cited by many authors online has to do with the fact Spanish is a critical language in the Americas, for both travel and for commerce. So if there are these benefits, is there any reason for not adopting Spanish officially as a second language?
      First of all there is no official language at all in the United States, although some have clamored for the adoption of English as the standard. Recently a New Jersey Public Policy poll reported on the website U.S. English showed a majority of citizens of the state want English to be adopted as the official language. The margin of error was less than five percentage points. H.R. 997 has been introduced in Congress for English to be granted special status as the language of the United States with an introductory clause that states its purpose: To declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution. This is the type of bill that has been introduced a number of times before and was defeated. The English Language Unity Bill of 2009 remains on the shelf for now as there have been no recent reports concerning either its passage or demise.
      Andrew Sterling, an online blogger, is one of those individuals who has written specifically against English as the official language because he says it would be difficult to determine a specific standard of English. He does, however, favor immigrants having to learn English in order to get jobs and receive other benefits, as has been reported a number of American citizens do. His argument, however, would also include Spanish in any recognition as an official language, either primary or secondary, given his reasons for not adopting English officially.
      The New York Times reported Pew Research findings in 2007 that stated by the time they are adults most children of Hispanic immigrants have learned to speak English well. On the other hand only 23% of first generation immigrants do. The fact that many recent immigrants do not learn English is troublesome for many Americans, according to the Times, that reports people being concerned about the lack of Hispanic assimilation into American society and the fact that Spanish may soon be the dominant language in places like California and Texas.
      Oregon is not alone in its dilemmas and how businesses, organizations and individuals handle the issue about requiring people to learn Spanish as criteria for employment and other concerns related to the adoption of an official first or second language. In the meantime, as one advertisement maintains in the Oregon newspaper recently, “only bilingual need apply” continues to be a contentious issue.

      • My own opinion is that neither language should be an official language, but my opposition to this does not stem from any of the apparent reasons that you give (and especially not from some sort of xenophobia as your statements suggest). My problem with an official language of any sort is that the issue of language use is best left to the municipalities and counties where the need is there. Blanket proposals that would require duplicate postings in Spanish and English in every county/parish/municipality across the country would be wasteful in terms of tax spending. It makes very little sense to post signs in Spanish and English in a community that is predominantly Vietnamese, Korean, Russian or Indian. A proposal like this would do very little to help or benefit the people of these communities. If the purpose of this proposal is actually for the benefit of the people (as any such proposal should be) and not for the aggrandizement of the people who happen to speak a particular language (be it English, Spanish or what-have-you) then it makes little sense and even has the potential for wastefulness to make broad proclamations such as these.

        I don’t necessarily doubt the US census data (although this data is always an estimate at best and is bound to misrepresent some group or other), but the problem is that the numbers do not represent a homogeneous mixture across the entire nation. The need for any particular language varies from region to region.

        I know that there is a saying that “When in Rome, do as the Romans do,” and to some degree this is how I view this argument. Where I live, there are quite a few Spanish speaking and bilingual (Spanish and English) families and so in my Rome, I see the benefit of learning Spanish (there is also a large Vietnamese speaking influence here and I would love to learn this language as well). In my larger Rome – my state and my nation – I recognize that the laws and precepts of such have a strong English tradition and it makes no sense for me to try to be the pebble that changes the course of a river that has been flowing for so long in this direction.

        To me, language is a tool that at its best brings people together not in opposition of others but in unity. I think language at its worst can also be used divisively. Your own comments seem to indicate that you have your own axe to grind on this topic and statements like “I could da un…que creen…” appear to me to be just as divisive and emphatic as some of those espoused by the other side of the debate “Learn English first.” Neither of these statements is a reasoned argument nor shows much sympathy for the actual motivation behind either side’s real motivations for such strong feelings: Frustration.

        Yes it is clearly frustration that causes such a strong debate on this issue. I can see how it can be frustrating for both sides. Living in a country where the language spoken is not your own or that you speak that language imperfectly can be intimidating, frustrating and dangerous as well. It can be even more personal if the person who does not understand the (de facto) vehicular language is not yourself but a loved one (or loved ones) such as family members. On the other hand, if you can understand your own frustration on this issue then it should not be difficult to understand that the frustration of not being able to communicate is a two way street.

        On a cultural level language is very much a part of heritage. The Spanish language is as much a part of your heritage as it is not a part of the heritage of millions of other Americans. Wanting others to share in your heritage is a noble ideal, but forcing that same thing upon others by some artificial mandate lacks the same luster. Would you think it fair, after all, if the argument were for four languages and none of the languages were your mother tongue – English, Chinese, Hindi, and French for example? A proposal like this might seem a bit overwhelming as undertaking to learn a single language in and of itself can be daunting and requires a lot more internal motivation, especially the older one gets. But by demanding that multiple languages be the “official languages” you are multiplying the demands on those who don’t speak either. You wouldn’t want anyone to mandate that your grandmother learn a language anymore, and for the same reason you should not demand it of anyone else by supporting such a short-sighted requirement.

        On a side note, I think that it would be awesome if we could all speak multiple languages and communicate with one another seamlessly, and I have endeavored to teach my own children various languages and to engender a love of languages, but the languages that I find most distressingly lacking in American societies and schools is the language of math and science. I read somewhere that the number of doctorate level engineer graduates in India alone is greater than the total number of adults living in the entire United States.

    • I think Americans are too ignorantly biased to understand they’re quite useless, in the current day and time we live in, if they don’t speak a second language (whether spanish or another). Americans so often say, “I’m American, I speak English”, at that statement I laugh at their ignorance, and basically the joke they have made for any other intelligent person. Think, what are Americans? A BUNCH of immigrants, even when it was founded this was the case. Even english is a “melting pot” language that contains latin, german, spanish, and few other words from other languages. I’m not saying that I hate America, because I strongly believe that Obama is making some strong improvements and there truly is hope por el futuro de los Estados Unidos. I would love to have Spanish as an official language because, “Latinos/Hispanics” make up the second largest part of the US population already! To support my statement with facts here are some statistics I researched below, compliments of the US Census Bureau. (Im white of French descent)

      U.S. Census Population projections

      2008 2050

      Non-Hispanic whites 66%, 46%

      Hispanic 15%, 30%

      African Americans 14%, 15%

      Asian American 5% ,9%

      So as you can see this is definitely an important step for the US to act on NOW. I love to prove people wrong and battle with facts in debates, so any opposition hit me with what you got.

      • I couldn’t agree with you more. We as Americans are idiots. Why is it that Europeans can speak 500 languages (exaggeraion, of course) but half of Americans can barely speak one?

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  92. All I know is I’ve have been looking for work in Management or as a Supervisor here in Southern California, and the job fit is perfect until it says “MUST BE bilingual in Spanish” at the bottom and this is because the workers have not learn the language of the country they are now residing, So we enable them by only hiring people that can communicate with them in their language, instead of requiring them to learn the language of the country they now live in.

    Now I must learn a language other than the one of my country, to work in my country (??) That just does not feel right. I feel that the burden should be on them to learn the language of the country they have moved too, it’s respectful and considerate to do so. If I moved to another country it would be MY responsibility to learn the language of the country I choose to move to.

    I know a lady who has lived in So. Cal for 30 years and STILL can not speak English because all the places she has worked have hired people just to accommodate her in her native language, Spanish.
    I know this will never change and it does not seem fair but I will try AGAIN to learn Spanish, but so far I just can’t pick it up, I even tried the Rosetta Stone software.

    I just don’t feel it should be a Job requirement, unless it’s for a interpreter position or something obvious like that. My last job a supervised housekeepers and some could not speak to me, so I would have a text translator and we talked that way, but I made it work for me and my team members, because the company did not say it was a MUST for me to even get hired in the first place. So I got hired a found a way to make it work. I think companies need to be more flexible and not make it all or nothing.

    I always thought is was good I love it here in America because it would be impossible for me to learn a language if I moved to another country, but I haven’t moved and yet still I can’t find work because I can’t speak a language (Spanish) other then the language of the country I was born and raised in.

  93. This guy who wrote this is, quite frankly, stupid. If you can’t do one of the tasks/ don’t have one of the skills required to do the job, why should you be hired to do it?

  94. Wow!! I can’t believe it! You are actually complaining of being “discriminated” for something that you can change? Don’t you have to agree that you actually CAN help not being spanish speaking?

  95. …Spanish is a skill, and if you’re doing business with Spanish speaking countries (which you’re very likely to, since you’re in a mostly Spanish-speaking continent) it makes sense that you need to speak it. Unless of course, you expect the whole of Latin America to speak English, meaning you probably think your precious rights are exclusive to your own country – not an unusual attitude for an American to have towards Latin Americans, mind you. What is next? Will it be discrimination to require a degree? Specific job skills? Any sort of job selection criteria? Or are you just mad that you’re required to accommodate people you clearly deem inferior?

    If you bothered taking a break from your navel-gazing, you would know that outside of the US, a large chunk of jobs require you to speak English, not to mention several other languages. People accommodate your needs more than that of native speakers of virtually any other language. Welcome to the real world.

    Signed, not a native speaker of English

  96. I am from rapid city SD I moved to Colorado to get married to my sweat heart thought I would have no problem getting a job here. I ran a fairly good sized crew there! I have been looking for a foremans job all over Colorado I am well qualified for this job a lot of experience. I have been pouring concrete for 20 years and have ran a crew for 10 of that! All of the foreman positions here require you to to be bilingual! And it really pisses me off this is AMERICA ! Now I can’t get a job I’m very good at in AMERICA because I don’t speak f$&@ing Spanish it just makes me sick!!!! What the hell has happend

    • Yes Justin…it makes the most of us sick because it’s a sickening situation for the system to allow catering to an immigrant language! It’s the usual lack of justice with this “BROKEN, UNJUST SYSTEM!” Since when is it okay for American people to be slighted in America….for the sake of catering to one race……in which most are here illegally anyway..refusing to adapt to the American standards of life…instead, they want America to cater to them! How twisted are they?! American citizens are having their rights and liberties infringed upon…all because they
      have allowed this ILLEGAL influx! DAMN SHAME!

  97. Yes can I get a number 8 with a large drink please? Illegal worker “QUE”????? THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!! I refuse to go to McDonald’s , an American hamburger resteraunt and order my meal in a foreign language. This is the U.S. if you can’t take my order, how did you get this job. Or pass the I9???? How??? These are the jobs our kids take while in highscool. Now they can’t because the illegal immigrants have taken all of these jobs away from U.S. citizens. I’m not prejudiced by any means, I just want for me and my kid to be able to earn a decent living a decent wages. This can’t happen if we must follow the laws but employers and illegal immigrants dont. We dont flood Mexico taking the little they have over there, so this is not fair. Leads to poor economy, high unemployment rates, crime and I believe higher gas prices with all these extra people on the road and these ragidy cars.

    • I totally feel your pain, and I agree 100%! And what kind of F@#ked up government we have to allow this nonsense! They care more about illegal immigrants, who choose to cheat their way through life, with their entitlement complex, while they cause hardship upon the American people, such as unemployment, which causes suffering and hardship within the American family system, which as a result causes crime, and many other negative consequences as you stated! I’m by no means a racist either, but by the same token, no one race has a right to be catered to…especially when they are the people migrating to another country! Aren’t they supposed to adapt and become a LEGAL citizen?! Why are we…the people with naturalization in this country forced to suffer consequences?! Instead of the president concerning himself with the safety and privileges of immigrants, he should be more focused on the American people, and upholding our rights and liberties

  98. How does an illegal alien work at McDonald’s corporation if you need a social security number to get hired? To have have a SSN, a person must be at the very least a legal resident. Sadly, we MUST cater to all languages because ENGLISH IS NOT THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE UNITED STATES! It never has been and never will.

    • Fact, illegals have jobs in America. Fact, many legal Americans are unemployed. Fact, just as there is a black market for fake drivers licenses or ID’s, those who are illegal purchase fake SS cards to get jobs. Illegals get cars, rent property and so on, most of these you need ID, DL or/and SS card, so they are getting fake documents in some cases(not all). Are some ignorant to this or just do not care. Although English is not the official language in U.S, we should assume the language the U.S Constitution is written in is the default official language, contextually speaking, that would make sense.

  99. When I voted this past November (for Obama), the ballot was in english, spanish, and haitian creole. Taxpayers dollars paid to have the ballot translated, If english was the official language then the ballot will be english only, by 2043 whites will no longer be the majority, by 2060, 1 out of 3 americans will be latino, In the next 20-30 years we are going to have a president with the last name gonzalez, hernandez. There are 2 kinds of people in America, people that have a Bachelor’s degree and people who don’t. The jobs that I qualify for you need a Bachelor’s degree so I’m not too worried about some illegal taking my job. For the unemployed legal Americans, it’s your fault for being a lazy ass and not going to college, the Federal Pell Grant pays for the degree, too lazy to study so don’t complain if an illegal takes your McDonald’s job

  100. I work as a pizza delivery guy, and I deliver to all kind of people, so I noticed that black people don’t like too tip very much, although there are exceptions. I understand when I dont get tip if I deliver to someone in a poor neigbourhood but this also happens when I deliver too tourists, although not always. So please tell me is it something cultural about it, is it that tipping regarded as a bad thing in the black community or its because of the low income, cause I can understand that.
    Please feel free to express your opinions, black people are invited to participate I will appreciate your input, and please don’t tell me I’m racist because it’s not true.

    • Pizza you are an ass.. That’s just poor ghetto ppl end of discussion! I’ve not gotten tips from whites and Hispanics as well.. Blacks dont tip– lol if you think u are not racist after defending stereotyping a race.. chances are YOU ARE RACIST get over it. Accept it.

  101. I’ve been working at a full service restaurant for over a year now. to give a hint, it’s one of the following: Applebees, Chilis, TGIF.
    its a typical, sit-in american restaurant.

    i also work in the south, Texas to be exact.

    i have served literally thousands of different tables and guests, and BY FAR BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE WORST TIPPERS!

    working in a restaurant has made me very judgmental about blacks as well as many other servers at my restaurant. (even though we DO have black servers at our restaurant)

    but seriously, for blacks, it seems like 8% or LESS is a standard tip. I have to rely on good natured white folk to leave me a 15%-20% tip in order to pay my bills and make any decent money. BTW I work for a $2.13 hourly wage.

    the worst part is, not only do blacks tip the least, but they also give THE MOST ATTITUDE and WORK ME THE HARDEST!!

    you have no idea how many angry black tables I have dealt with, or the requests I receive from them, only to be compensated ALMOST NOTHING!

    i also hate how black people will order expensive things off the menu such as alcoholic beverages, appetizers, expensive entrees, etc, so their final bill is $40+ and then they leave $2.

    for a while, i tried to give black people a break by not charging for their drinks, hoping they would tip me more, but that didn’t happen, so now I charge them for every single thing they order.

    Why are blacks so resistant to accept our culture of standard tipping?

    When I go out to eat and I’m low on cash, I will either:

    1. order moderately at the restaurant SO I CAN STILL AFFORD TO TIP
    2. GO EAT FAST FOOD!

    something needs to change. I don’t know if it’s because blacks aren’t aware of the tipping system here(which I’m skeptical of)
    or if it’s just they’re too cheap (much more likely)

    because of black people, I have worked an 8 hour dinner shift, had net sales of over $600 and walked out of the store with less than $50. That’s a wage of under $6/hr and an average tip of 8.3%

  102. All through high school and pretty much through college, I worked as a waitress. In fact, my very first on-the-books job was as a waitress at Friendly’s – you know, the place that makes those SuperMelt sandwiches and ice cream sundaes. Anyway, my first few weeks of work was spent as a waitress-in-training, which meant that I had to follow around a tenured waitress, whose job it was to ready me for waiting tables of my own. She took kindly to me, showing me the ropes on how to hold one of those large trays without dropping it, how to handle multiple tables at one time and dropping other pearls of wisdom to make my experience at Friendly’s more friendly. On my first day on the floor my mentor pulled me aside and gave me one last tidbit of advice: “Whatever you do, don’t take it personal. Black folks just don’t tip.” Huh? I was stunned, short of offended, not only because she was brazen enough to say that to me but also because she was a black lady. Surely, this lady was suffering from some sort of self-hatred issues. Boy was I wrong.

    One of my very first tables of the night was a four-top of two black women, one black guy and a black baby. Before I could get the customary “Welcome Friendly’s may I take your order” out my mouth, I was already besieged with demands for appetizers, soda, more crayons and a gazillion questions about what could and could not be substituted on the menu. After finally taking their orders I was summoned to the table a total of 12 times for more soda, a glass of water, another box of crayons, more napkins and ranch dressing. It wouldn’t have been so bad if they had asked me for everything at one time, but these people were determined to work me hard. But through it all, I gritted my teeth and smiled because I knew that my due-diligence in providing the very best in Friendly’s service was going to be rewarded with a big fat tip. Boy, was I batting 0-2. Not only did the bothersome-foursome not leave a tip, they had the nerve to leave $2 less than the bill.

    At first I thought it was a Philly-thing, until I started waitressing my way through college, this time at Red Lobster, and noticed that the poor to no tipping policy by black folks seemed to be universal. It was so bad that most of the waitstaff – regardless of color – would moan and groan when they saw a table of black customers in their section. Honestly, I would do it too. I know it sounds ignorant, but as a poor college student, hustling through classes and 40 hours (or more) a week at work, I could not afford to be pro-Black. That was until one day I began to reflect on my and my co-workers’ treatment of our black customers and thought, maybe it was us. Maybe I had been so scared by the first bad experience with the black table of four and the words of my black mentor that I had just internalized this black folks don’t tip meme and began to treat them accordingly.

    So for one shift, I instructed the hostess to make my section the unofficial “colored” section of the restaurant. This sent shockwaves through the Red Lobster kitchen, especially among the waitstaff, who thought I was foolish, but were okay with it as my foolishness gave them an opportunity to make some real dough that night. Anyway, all night I hustled through my tables, delivering trays and trays of ranch dressing, ketchup and a plethora of napkins. I also smiled and engaged the customers more, even offering suggestions for substitutes, which I felt might be more to their liking. At the end of the night, I counted up my tips and lo and behold, I still made less than what I normally did. However, each one of my tables tipped me something, even if it was just a dollar per person.

    So yeah, part of it is the attitude of servers themselves, however I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the other factors, including misinformation and the flat-out, “I’m just not doing it” rationale. To those, who are misinformed or feel they shouldn’t have to tip, remember that it is customary to tip your server between 15 to 20 percent of your bill. Sounds like a lot but not really, especially when you consider that the average server typically makes 2-3 bucks an hour. That’s right, the person who has been on his or her feet for the past 6 hours, bustling from table to table, filling endless requests for water, napkins and more ketchup, makes less per hour than the guy who greets you at the nearby Walmart. This is because waitstaff employers are by law allowed to pay individuals engaged in occupations in which regularly receive more than $30 a month in tips, less than minimum wage. This unfortunate reality means that wait staff must rely on the finicky, and sometimes abusive, demands of a public, who uses individual criteria of “good” service for their sole source of income. In other words, you can have one table which is only interested in the bare minimum of food, water and bill and call that good service, while another table feels that they are entitled to work and berate you because you have a plastic nametag in the shape of a Halibut pinned to your shirt. So whatever the reason, leave your waitress/waiter something because, unless they work at “Chez You Fancy, Huh?” on Beverly Hills Blvd, many of them are working-class folks, just like some of you, hustling and scrapping to get by.

    But I will say that I’m not so sure if the reputation is ours to bear alone. After my little social-experiment that day I started really monitoring who would and would not leave a tip. I found that foreigners from countries where a livable wage is customary of service people, single white women with children and poor folks of all colors, did not tip regularly or appropriately. The latter too was of course for economic reasons. And despite their inability to tip me appropriately, they were always really nice and thankful for the service, which in the end, made my job much more pleasant.

  103. After a few weeks of double shifts, no lunch breaks and sometimes bringing home embarrassingly small amounts of money left by, yes, my own people, I, too, began to wonder if there was something to my colleagues’ comments. For the life of me, why didn’t my own people tip 20 percent or at least a paltry 15 percent?

    I’ll never forget serving a family of five. Their tab came to $98. The older black gentleman praised my service and even asked where I’d be studying in the fall. He shook my hand, enclosing a folded $100 bill, and as he left he said, “Keep the change.” It was apparent that he was serious, and had no idea that I wanted to chase him out into the parking lot with a baseball bat, Joe Clark-style.

    …My experience was that many of my African-American guests simply did not know that 20 percent is the standard tip. Barring terrible service, it should always be that. And if tipping is an issue, there’s always the takeout option or the ubiquitous Golden Arches.

    At the risk of being ousted from the black community, I’m going to take a stab at another of the reasons that some of us tip poorly. To reduce the matter to economic means would be a gross oversimplification, since I’ve received a 50 percent tip from a table of teenagers.

    I think it’s more about racism.

    Think about it: For black folks, there are still relatively few opportunities (outside of therapy) to articulate our frustration with the unbalanced scales of power in our society. Even for those in the upper echelons, the playing field isn’t level, and in our current economic climate, everything is in flux, making waiters easy targets. I found that the tables that demanded the most tipped the worst. It became painfully clear that I gave my distressed guest an opportunity to feel superior.

  104. Great post – I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately, because recently, after two straight summers of waiting tables, I had an experience that really changed my attitude about waiting on black people.
    I like to think I have an unusually easygoing personality, which helped me wait on black people because I would always, always remain optimistic. I’d argue with my boyfriend that not ALL black people are bad tippers, although I’d personally never met a good one. That didn’t mean they didn’t exist, right? So I’d give every black table the same attentive service that I’d give a white table. So they’d take advantage of that: so what? They might give me a decent tip, right? right?
    Wrong.
    Still, I remained optimistic. A good black tipper was out there and I’d find him or her eventually.
    Last week a nice car with rims pulled into the parking lot: as we have outdoor seating, I saw it. I saw a black man and two black women step out. Bling everywhere. When they sat down, the man was practically waving his money in my face as I rushed to get them their three drinks apiece: water, coke, and cocktails. three each, each to be refilled at a different time. Luckily, they were my only table at the time, so I was free to give them great service: Extra sauce. More bread. To-go containers, glasses of ice, shirley temples. Everything they could imagine to demand of me, they did, and I hopped to get that ready. At the end of the meal, their $120 bill was matched with a $4 tip. No joke.
    My anger was enough for me to wonder if it was enough to really make me a racist. I searched the depths of my mind to rationalize why people could do this to other people – and in the end, I thought it could only be ignorance.
    My big problem was my question: what can we do about this? If I come out and ask black people directly, I’ll get defensive, angry answers, accusing me of being a bad server and a racist, both of which would be untrue. We can’t count on the restaurants themselves to do anything, they’re more interested in pleasing the guest to the point of licking the bottom of customer’s shoes.
    I’m glad we have the internet so I can hide my white face as I post this request: Please, if you have a racial stereotype, change it. “Be the change you wish to see in the world.” Waiting tables is a unique job because it is one that totally relies on the decency of other people. You have to optimistic about people. Don’t kill that for your server.

  105. Ok, I have been a server for MANY years. Now I know that not all black people are bad tippers. Some actually leave better than they should because they feel like they have to make up for all the bad tippers. Unfortunately for the most part MANY blacks where I am from ARE the typical stereotype. Its not about how much money they have, they know what they are doing. Today I had a table of six black men and women that ordered about $320 worth of food. They had lobster tail, filet mingon and shots of patron. I truly feel that I gave them really good service. When I gave them the bill the head man gave me a book with a crap load of wadded up small bills, mostly ones. He laughed and said the rest “is all mine”. When he said that I knew I was doomed. Sure enough he not only didnt leave a tip but rounded down about 15 cents. Its times like this that give servers the stereotype. We can’t help it. It happens soooo much its engrained in your mind. I actually had to pay about $5 to take the table once I payed the bartender tipout.

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  107. If you didn’t know the reason immigrants come here is for the money, it’s not to socialize with drama Americans who want to send every non white immigrant back to their country and the funny thing is is that almost every American is an immigrant. Every caucasian their ancestors came from Europe and honest truth Mexicans are more native to North America than a typical caucasian American. So really Spanish or the language of Native Indians was the first language in North America, but you dont see Native Americans or Spanish people tripping over caucasian Americans only knowing how to speak English. Get over yourselves, America is a melting pot if you didnt know.

  108. No it is not rude to use your language in public, it IS rude when you have a high and mighty attitude about speaking a different language and saying other people need to learn YOUR language. In America, we speak English, in Germany- German, Mexico-Spanish. If you plan on moving to one of those countries, you should learn the language of the country, not move over there and EXPECT others to learn your language. Does that make ANY sense? I live where there is majority of mexican americans, its very rare to go anywhere and understand another conversation because its always in spanish, do I mind? No. What bothers me is the fact that I can not get a job because I dont speak spanish, and the times I have landed a job, people go out of their way to exclude me by speaking spanish the entire time I am there, funny thing is, when I would go there on days off or after I quit, they were cheerfully speaking english. Yes, I have tried to learn to no avail, I find the language very complex and I cant roll my “R’s” that good. It also doesnt help that when I try to speak it, every Mexican around me starts giggling and making fun of my efforts. I have recently purchased Rosetta Stone. We shall see how that goes but I am still pissed to say I live in America, and I am FORCED to learn a foreign language. For those that think “good for you” or “deal with it”, heres a question for you, how would you like it if your parents, siblings, or children had to endure the same treatment?

  109. That is something I wonder from time to time. I do speak to my children in Spanish in front of others. Sometimes I do feel like people feel uncomfortable because they don’t understand what is going on. Depending on the situation, I would either translate to them what I just said or just move on if I think they have no need to know what I said. I have used English on occasions and it just feels wrong to me, almost unnatural and even my son looks at me funny.

  110. In my experience, my husband’s family speaks Portuguese at their home. I am getting better at understanding, but it is still frustrating, as I am not yet fluent. At first, I did think it was rude because they knew I couldn’t participate in the conversation and they would only occasionally translate. Now, I can usually understand, at least, what they are talking about. I do, however, get very uncomfortable when my they start speaking in Portuguese in public social situations. My brother in law is mainly guilty of this when he is in a social situation with my husband and our friends. Since I know what he is saying, he usually is being rude and actually trying to hide what he is saying from the rest of the people. I think it is sneaky and anti-social and this practice of multilingualism really irks me. I do try to speak Portuguese with my children, without much help from my fluently speaking husband, but it’s a work in progress. I will never be ok with multilingualism being used in an exclusatory manner.

  111. Wow, you really don’t like Spanish-speakers who are not able to speak English well enough to live up to your expectations, do you? Have you tried, as an adult, to learn another language well enough to live in another country? Growing up bilingual is nice but doesn’t compare to trying to learn/live in another language. I have traveled a lot and currently live in Mexico. It is fun to “attempt(s) to communicate with them in their native language” when traveling but it is really hard to try to live it.

    I live in a Spanish-speaking country and although many people ” in business, science, technology, law and medicine ” speak some English, it is very far from all and many of those who do speak English would be the people who you blast for laziness because they don’t speak English well enough to go to court without a translator (one would be crazy to go to court using a “second” language without a translator.) Those that only speak Spanish are NOT all “relegated to low skilled, low paying jobs, where there is little education required and little contact with peoples (sic) of the rest of the world.” Neither my doctor, nor my dentist speaks any English, nor my veterinarian, nor any of the teachers, lawyers, businessmen and women, or professors at Chapingo University (other than some of the foreign ones and English professors) that I know. In 5+ years here I have met a handful of people who speak enough English to hold a basic conversation with me in English even though all Mexican students take English classes beginning at age 3.

    Have you ever considered that some of those workers that you think are so lazy are working a full-time job at your company and may have something else, like their families that they choose to spend their free-time on? Or maybe they just aren’t as perfect as you and can’t pick up a language as easily as you? Or have you learned to converse in another language other than the ones you picked up at home?

  112. I almost never translate, but I now do when we are around other children who do not speak Spanish. I was horrified to hear my four year old nephew tell my three year old son, “Why do you speak Spanish. I don’t like Spanish.” I now translate so not to leave the other cousins out, and I have tried to make Spanish fun. The cousins now all go to a parent and me Spanish class that is a lot of fun, and that they all enjoy it. We also watch bilingual shows like HBO’s Perro y Gato. I have really worked to make Spanish fun for all the kids, and I think it is working. The kids are now starting to ask me how to say things in Spanish. If I translate, I don’t leave the other kids out, and they may actually learn along with my children.

  113. My father only speaks English, so he claims that it is rude when my mother (who is German) and I talk in German. I see your point of view, but this is the US, the land of all cultures. For hundreds of years immigrants from everywhere have come to this place and they are 100% entitled to speak whatever language they please. If you find it annoying that you can’t understand their conversations, instead of trying to force people under one language how about learning their language. I don’t know why so many Americans think that the entire world must speak English, true they are speaking Spanish in the US, but their conversation is none of your business in the first place.

  114. There are thousands of retired Americans living in Mexico, huddled in certain areas, and most do NOT speak Spanish, and do not care to learn the language, I have tried to teach Spanish to them, for FREE!

    If you were to take a foreign language in school, let’s say Italian, you would be still be talking English with your friends.

    I am curious, would you also be irritated if the people were Russian or Arabic, and were speaking Russian, or Arabic?

    That is very common in certain parts of New Jersey, New York, and other eastern states. I hear a lot of Russian and Arabic. They are NOT talking to me, they are talking to someone else, so what do I care what they are saying. And no, I do NOT find it rude, this is AMERICA, there are people from all over the world here.

    Get irritated, even angry, when someone steals your purse, or breaks into your home, these are serious issues. Get irritated when you get a pimple. Those things have to do with you.

    People speaking a language you do not understand is not a crime in AMERICA, this is not a communist country, is the land of the free!

  115. The case in which a Foothill Ranch health care firm paid $450,000 to settle claims it had an English-only rule has sparked a debate over whether employers should be allowed to ban employees from speaking Spanish at work.

    cg1f9Many readers argued that since English is the dominant language in this country, only that language should be spoken in the workplace.

    Others argued that having bilingual employees could be an asset to a company and that employees’ rights to speak their native tongue should be respected at work. At least one argued that freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak another language.

    Background: Skilled Healthcare Group Inc., which owns nursing homes, assisted living centers, a rehabilitation business and hospice care business in six Western states, settled a discrimination claim out of court rather than fight what its lawyer called false accusations of discrimination.

    The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a class-action suit against Skilled Healthcare after about 53 employees complained that they were banned from speaking Spanish at work, even though Filipino employees were not disciplined for speaking Tagalog.

    The suit alleged that Hispanic employees also received less-desirable assignments and fewer promotions.

    An attorney for the firm denied that any form of discrimination existed, adding that the incidents were alleged to have occurred under previous management.

    Either way, the EEOC maintains that it’s illegal to discriminate against employees based on their national origin.
    Sounds crazy but speaking a language other than English in America is not illegal, must be unfortunate to be monolingual in a global society.

  116. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended says you cannot prohibit someone from speaking their native language…ITS THE LAW! English only is a violation of these peoples civil rights that are protected by the constitution…….The law does take into account that individuals, depending on the job they may have, to speak english but does not prohibit them from speaking their native tongue when on breaks and lunch. ENGLISH ONLY RULES VIOLATE THE LAW, plain and simple. That does not mean that they got in “trouble” because they didn’t ban other from speaking in native languages and only disallowed Hispanics. This fact just made the case easier to prove!

  117. If you hire someone with two feet, expect them to use both. If you hire someone with two hands, expect them to use both. If you hire someone that speaks two languages, expect them to use both.

    And what’s this rubbish about coming from another country and learning the language? We are born and raised Americans, we are blessed to speak Spanish as well as English. For the record, this article is not about Mexicans, it is about Spanish. And, no, we Spanish-speaking peoples do not sit speaking ill of “whitey.” We discuss everyday life, just as we would in English. Black, White, Mestizo, Indio, Chinese (Cuba and Panama), we all speak Spanish… Rude discussions take place just as often between English speakers as they do between Spanish speakers.

    Should an employer be allowed to dictate how I use my tongue and brain to form a language and use it? No. What next? Everyone will have to sit down on the toilet to pee so that we do not get pee on the seats? Get real, Spanish will be spoken whenever, wherever.

  118. I agree with a person above who says that if you live in this country you should learn english not as a racist or descriminating factor but for many other reason including safety (all our signs are in english). BUT…. that has nothing to do with whether or not a person is allowed to speak spanish at their place of work. I am bilingual. If I am on my work break or speaking to a spanish-speaking client, you bet I am going to speak spanish. What gives a boss the right to tell me what I can and can not speak on MY free time!!! Or how rude is it to make a spanish-speaking client feel their not worth the business because the person attending them is not allowed to speak spanish…I am sorry but that is wrong!!! Yes an owner of a business has a right to require that only english is to be spoken, it is their business, but the customer has to be respected and the worker’s well deserved free time has to be respected. The fact that only spanish was banned and no other foreign languages were, makes it a case of DISCRIMINATION period!!! Stop trying to sugar coat it!!! This country has a mixture of people, when are you going to give it up, get over it!!! Have a wondeful day everyone!

  119. It always comes back to race and culture. America is so great right? Great of what? The hope of the American dream? It seems it’s only o.k if you are white or look white or your name sounds white.people say go back where you came from, but really? Think hard guys is 200 years a long time thats about 3 generations. People owned people as slaves and god knows what other ethnicities were. @ 200 hundred 3 generations later the owners are now the victim? English only!, Go back where you came from?.How ignorant you have to be not to see that this is some form of that slavery mentality. Just because you own your business you don;t own your employees.White guy can’t get a job because a colored folk got it through affirmitive action, wow big deal maybe your great grandfather should of made a better decision on keeping people for slaves.Besides English is the worlds second language. Not my fault your crossbreed can’t get a job or compete in the world market. Besides asains are taking over so guess what we got learn those languages too. Ahh I remember when only english ruled!

  120. Im one of those Latinas that can’t stand seeing a Latino person that doesn’t speak the language. BUT after expressing that I don’t like it, I do help them learn a few words here and there. Sadly, there’s nota lot of people like Renee (who posted above) who CARE to learn the language of which their great grandparents/grandparents or parents grew with. It’s part of your blood, don’t leave it behind. And that’s THE PROBLEM I see often. When people who are American and of Hispanic ancestry want to leave it behind talking bout English is the main language, speak English. Yeah ok. Then people wonder why America isn’t excelling as it should as a first world country. Attitudes like that, “English is the main language” psssh. Another thing to consider is that a lot of these folks who don’t speak the language because of how Americanized they are, at what point are they actually American and NOT Latino(just Latino descent)?

  121. Creo que la responsabilidad de enseñarles español a sus hijos es de los padres. Realmente no es nada difícil, sólo tienen que platicarles en español desde pequeño y ya. Si hablan español desde la cuna sus chiquillos no tendrán que esforzarse para aprender una lengua “extranjera” que realmente debería ser UNA de sus lenguas maternas. No tiene nada de malo hablar más de una lengua (o dos, tres, o más)…sólo puede beneficiarlos a la hora de hablar con sus parientes en su país de origen o cuando buscan trabajo. Van a aprender inglés, que no se preocupen por eso!

  122. Although it is not necessary to speak Spanish to represent The Hispanic community, it would be helpful. The ability to speak another language is an advantage. We should encourage everyone to speak more than one language. The USA is the only country that sees speaking multiple languages as a threat to national identity instead of a national resource in our ever shrinking world. This linguistic paranoia hinders our ability to understand others. It is fabulous that many Hispanics continue to speak Spanish. Let us value this resource and try to teach all our children to speak at least 2 languages.

  123. If they are courting Hispanic votes with Spanish speakers and households with recent Latin American immigrants, they MUST speak Spanish. This has to do with politicians, not persons who are never going to run for office. If you don’t learn or continue to speak the native language of your family, that is your choice. BUT it’s a HUGE SHAME to lose your mother language. Parents who don’t encourage their children to speak Spanish in order to make them “More American” are dumb as rocks. Having a second or third language is a fantastic gift and people in this country have got to stop b*itching that immigrants should only speak English. For the record, I came to this country from Nicaragua in 1978 as a 6 year old and I never lost my Spanish.
    It’s essential to know a second language and to take pride in your background.

  124. Wow this is ridiculous. If you want to get a job that requires ANY particular skill, then you need to learn that skill. Does being born not knowing how to use Microsoft Word mean you are discriminated against because an employer wants someone who knows how to use MS Word? Race, etc. is not a choice, learning a different language IS. That is the problem with this country, everyone thinks they are entitled to things just because they exist. You want something, work for it. Another example, if you are born ugly you have no choice in that, but that doesn’t mean a modeling agency should have to hire you, does it? Maybe you are the discriminatory one since you are mad that people who have more skills than you in the language department are getting jobs and you aren’t. If a job required you to speak Mandarin, would that be discriminatory? Did you ever consider the work that people had to put in to be fluent in more than one language? Why shouldn’t you be required to do the same? What’s next? Should I sue an engineering firm because I wasn’t born with the ability to calculate complex equations, as required by the job? Get a grip people. You want a job, go get educated and get the skills required for that job. Otherwise, don’t complain.

  125. Ya’ll need to chill here…..Just in case ya’ll ‘Americans’ have forgotten, this country’s original language WAS NOT ENGLISH. Indians ended up with the short end of the stick, but adjusted after their land was taken from them. All they got left is the reservations. So if they had they brains to learn English and adapt, so should you.

    There’s nothing better than being able to speak a second language and to learn from other cultures. Open up to new things, explore, travel, LEARN!!!! But I guess you like living in a box, huh? Vanilla ice cream and Korn Flakes only? As far as your ‘excuse’ of blacks not having jobs, well I hate to disagree, but I know plenty of black ppl that just wont do what most Hispanics are willing to. The only reason they do it it’s because of the language barrier and the fact that they may not have a s.s.c., but a black citizen should NOT be doing those type of jobs to begin with. They were born here, they speak the language, and DO have a s.s.c., so there’s no excuses as of why they cant get a better paying job. They had the chance just like any other citizen does. They just see the world thru different eyes. THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE. If yall dont go out there and grab them it’s nobody’s fault.
    It is a shame, a terrible shame to see how many immigrants have come to the US and have made it big. I mean big. Established LEGIT businesses, are very well off, DO SPEAK ENGLISH, and most of them came here with a dream only and no money, but with a lot of courage and willing to start from the bottom to get to where they wanted to be. While on the other token we have many Americans with everything on a silver platter and have done nothing with their lives. NO AMBITION AT ALL.

  126. Total BS.. I have traveled to other countries and if you cant understand the language you have to try your best to communicate with the place of business. In all these south american countries there are hardly any jobs which demand only bilingual ppl to get hired. Why must America bow down to you but where you come from don’t do the same? GTFOH!! My thing is this you want to come live and work in a country please learn the language.. If you are visiting that’s another thing. But coming to live n work? come on learn the damn language!

  127. All the latins especially mexicans brag that all jobs want spanish speaking.
    They are now so arrogant, and they look down not only on blacks, but asians, middle easterns, jews, and whites.
    Latins refuse to speak english, why should they when all the white owned companies advertise that you must speak, read , and write spanish to get a job in english speaking America.
    Once a latin, especially mexican becomes manager or HR, they only will hire there own latin people too.
    So the white managers that only hire latins or mexicans now, guess what your little white kids will not be able to find a job when they grow up because you promoted latins to be in charge of hiring.

  128. The US has been a Spanish speaking country for over 500 years. http://www.pbs.org/speak/seatosea/americanvarieties/spanglish/usa/

    Spanish is not a language spoken by “illegals”, “welfare queens” or “Hispanics”. It is a language spoken by one in 5 US residents (50 million ppl) who live, love, work, study and dream in the Spanish language. Spanish, spoken by millions of people across the continental United States, from Cordova, Alaska to Corozal, Puerto, Rico, will not ‘disappear’ or ‘go away’. It will endure. It has endured centuries of the US federal government trying to erase and extinguish its presence in historically, majority Spanish speaking areas such as the entire southwest United States, St. Bernard’s parish, Louisiana, Alaska, Florida and Puerto RIco. English speaking US citizens should be welcoming and embracing the historic language spoken by the first European explorers of what would become the USA, the Spanish.

    This basically boils down to hate, laziness and lack of education from those that champion English only. Uneducated, bigoted Northern European descent (“white”) US residents, whom are in some, shape or form incapable of fluently mastering a language besides English, believe that requiring the ability to speak Spanish to communicate with the 1 in 5 (50 million) tax paying US residents who live their daily in the Spanish tongue. They feel it is beneath them to learn the language of 500 million people who happen to share the western hemisphere with this. This infinite hate could be channeled to spending a year or 2 learning Spanish, and seeing the results from there. Is it because the people that speak Spanish are ‘brown’, or that they are actually ethnically cleansed Native Americans? Whatever the reason, the hate is mindboggling.

    In other threads it has been mentioned in all other parts of the world speaking the local language, English plus a third language is usually a basic job requirement. People in the US, get a dictionary, get a grammar book, watch Univision! Learn Spanish! It will never go away, it has always been with us! We now have the Internet so there is no excuse for not having the time or ability to learn Spanish.

  129. If it makes you feel good that Latinos are the fastest growing group by ILLEGAL means, than hey you hold on to that. Bragging on illegal activity, that says a lot about your mens rea. Furthermore, Mexico is so bad its people will die trying to get out. If Mexicans were to take over America, the U.S. would become the same crappy place as most of Mexico. So go ahead and cheat and steal your way into the U.S. that says a lot about many of these illegals character. Love it but leave it, the illegal Latino’s motto.

    Oh yeah, on 9/11 I saw a nice portion of that “50 million” high-tailing it back to Mexico. Just take, take, take and run home when America hurts.

  130. The moderator keeps assuming all Hispanics are illegal and Mexican, there are 40 million LEGAL Hispanics and 12 million illegal. I was born and raised in Chicago in a bilingual household and my heritage is Bolivian, the other day I got hired as a manager in the billing department of a hospital here in Chicago. The hiring manager told me I got the job because in addition to my college degree I am fully bilingual. It’s funny that I came across this site because there were 4 African Americans and myself who got the interview and of course because I possess a skill that they didn’t have, I got the job! It’s crazy that the United States is the only country on Earth in which speaking multiple languages is viewed as a threat to national identity! I want to ask the moderator one simple question, “What is your opinion about Hispanics like me who are born and raised in America but possess the skill to be bilingual and thus have a distinct advantage over monolinguals?”

  131. It isn’t true that blacks and hispanics usually hate each other, but among people who see things through “race glasses” there can always be a group that identifies with race, and counterpart groups that do likewise. The most publicized problems between such groups in the black and hispanic sphere are in certain areas of California, mostly between gangs who are too quick to resort to violence. As we all know, when things degenerate to violence tensions between groups escalate and hatred influences thinking. It’s kind of a self-perpetuating cycle that can last for generations, so it’s very unfortunate when it gets started. If you are a parent, and some people of another race murder one of your children, you have a lot to resolve before you can trust people of that race again. Even though it was just a few people who committed the crime, it it isn’t always possible for people who have gone through something like that not to see all people of that race as a threat. There are people of all races who have been victims of violence caused by racial tensions, and while they can’t really be blamed for distrusting or hating in return, there are many more innocent people who don’t look at the world through “race glasses” but will be hated for things they had nothing to do with.

  132. THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend’s black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.

    Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods. Just last August, federal prosecutors convicted four Latino gang members of engaging in a six-year conspiracy to assault and murder African Americans in Highland Park. During the trial, prosecutors demonstrated that African American residents (with no gang ties at all) were being terrorized in an effort to force them out of a neighborhood now perceived as Latino.

    For example, one African American resident was murdered by Latino gang members as he looked for a parking space near his Highland Park home. In another case, a woman was knocked off her bicycle and her husband was threatened with a box cutter by one of the defendants, who said, “You niggers have been here long enough.”

    At first blush, it may be mystifying why such animosity exists between two ethnic groups that share so many of the same socioeconomic deprivations. Over the years, the hostility has been explained as a natural reaction to competition for blue-collar jobs in a tight labor market, or as the result of turf battles and cultural disputes in changing neighborhoods. Others have suggested that perhaps Latinos have simply been adept at learning the U.S. lesson of anti-black racism, or that perhaps black Americans are resentful at having the benefits of the civil rights movement extended to Latinos.

    Although there may be a degree of truth to some or all of these explanations, they are insufficient to explain the extremity of the ethnic violence.

    Over the years, there’s also been a tendency on the part of observers to blame the conflict more on African Americans (who are often portrayed as the aggressors) than on Latinos. But although it’s certainly true that there’s plenty of blame to go around, it’s important not to ignore the effect of Latino culture and history in fueling the rift.

    The fact is that racism — and anti-black racism in particular — is a pervasive and historically entrenched reality of life in Latin America and the Caribbean. More than 90% of the approximately 10 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas were taken to Latin America and the Caribbean (by the French, Spanish and British, primarily), whereas only 4.6% were brought to the United States. By 1793, colonial Mexico had a population of 370,000 Africans (and descendants of Africans) — the largest concentration in all of Spanish America.

    The legacy of the slave period in Latin America and the Caribbean is similar to that in the United States: Having lighter skin and European features increases the chances of socioeconomic opportunity, while having darker skin and African features severely limits social mobility.

    White supremacy is deeply ingrained in Latin America and continues into the present. In Mexico, for instance, citizens of African descent (who are estimated to make up 1% of the population) report that they regularly experience racial harassment at the hands of local and state police, according to recent studies by Antonieta Gimeno, then of Mount Holyoke College, and Sagrario Cruz-Carretero of the University of Veracruz.

    Mexican public discourse reflects the hostility toward blackness; consider such common phrases as “getting black” to denote getting angry, and “a supper of blacks” to describe a riotous gathering of people. Similarly, the word “black” is often used to mean “ugly.” It is not surprising that Mexicans who have been surveyed indicate a disinclination to marry darker-skinned partners, as reported in a 2001 study by Bobby Vaughn, an anthropology professor at Notre Dame de Namur University.

    Anti-black sentiment also manifests itself in Mexican politics. During the 2001 elections, for instance, Lazaro Cardenas, a candidate for governor of the state of Michoacan, is believed to have lost substantial support among voters for having an Afro Cuban wife. Even though Cardenas had great name recognition (as the grandson of Mexico’s most popular president), he only won by 5 percentage points — largely because of the anti-black platform of his opponent, Alfredo Anaya, who said that “there is a great feeling that we want to be governed by our own race, by our own people.”

    Given this, it should not be surprising that migrants from Mexico and other areas of Latin America and the Caribbean arrive in the U.S. carrying the baggage of racism. Nor that this facet of Latino culture is in turn transmitted, to some degree, to younger generations along with all other manifestations of the culture.

    The sociological concept of “social distance” measures the unease one ethnic or racial group has for interacting with another. Social science studies of Latino racial attitudes often indicate a preference for maintaining social distance from African Americans. And although the social distance level is largest for recent immigrants, more established communities of Latinos in the United States also show a marked social distance from African Americans.

    For instance, in University of Houston sociologist Tatcho Mindiola’s 2002 survey of 600 Latinos in Houston (two-thirds of whom were Mexican, the remainder Salvadoran and Colombian) and 600 African Americans, the African Americans had substantially more positive views of Latinos than Latinos had of African Americans. Although a slim majority of the U.S.-born Latinos used positive identifiers when describing African Americans, only a minority of the foreign-born Latinos did so. One typical foreign-born Latino respondent stated: “I just don’t trust them…. The men, especially, all use drugs, and they all carry guns.”

    This same study found that 46% of Latino immigrants who lived in residential neighborhoods with African Americans reported almost no interaction with them.

    The social distance of Latinos from African Americans is consistently reflected in Latino responses to survey questions. In a 2000 study of residential segregation, Camille Zubrinsky Charles, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, found that Latinos were more likely to reject African Americans as neighbors than they were to reject members of other racial groups. In addition, in the 1999-2000 Lilly Survey of American Attitudes and Friendships, Latinos identified African Americans as their least desirable marriage partners, whereas African Americans proved to be more accepting of intermarriage with Latinos.

    Ironically, African Americans, who are often depicted as being averse to coalition-building with Latinos, have repeatedly demonstrated in their survey responses that they feel less hostility toward Latinos than Latinos feel toward them.

    Although some commentators have attributed the Latino hostility to African Americans to the stress of competition in the job market, a 1996 sociological study of racial group competition suggests otherwise. In a study of 477 Latinos from the 1992 Los Angeles County Social Survey, professors Lawrence Bobo, then of Harvard, and Vincent Hutchings of the University of Michigan found that underlying prejudices and existing animosities contribute to the perception that African Americans pose an economic threat — not the other way around.

    It is certainly true that the acrimony between African Americans and Latinos cannot be resolved until both sides address their own unconscious biases about one another. But it would be a mistake to ignore the Latino side of the equation as some observers have done — particularly now, when the recent violence in Los Angeles has involved Latinos targeting peaceful African American citizens.

    This conflict cannot be sloughed off as simply another generation of ethnic group competition in the United States (like the familiar rivalries between Irish, Italians and Jews in the early part of the last century). Rather, as the violence grows, the “diasporic” origins of the anti-black sentiment — the entrenched anti-black prejudice among Latinos that exists not just in the United States but across the Americas — will need to be directly confronted.

  133. Several years ago my wife applied for a job at the United States Post Office in Thornton, Co.80229 and was denied a job application because she did not speak Spanish! She is fluent in U.S. English, Tagolog, German, French, Mandarin Chinese and Japanese as well as having a working knowledge of Thai, Vietnamese, Hebrew and Arabic.

  134. Nothing is more disgusting than a black uncle tom republican. I came here to New York from Nigeria 8 years ago and I am always being discriminated against by African Americans because I have a real African last name and not some slavemaster last name like Davis, Smith, Johnson etc… African Americans are the only group in the United States who don’t even know what country their heritage is from, It took me 2 years to learn English and I speak it better than most African Americans who were born in America and speaks Ebonics. “I done told you?” “I finna go to the store?”, why if African Americans only know how to speak one language why do they choose to speak it incorrectly? I have met thousands of African Americans here in New York but I have yet to meet a single one that can actually speak a second language other than English.

  135. Trash comes in all colors. Welfare should be denied to ANYONE if you are standing in line with gold teeth, a pimp cane, a $200 weave or $50 nail job, huge rims, cable TV or a big screen while your child is eating freegovernment lunch at school. People have no shame! Used to be poeple were embarrassed to use a foodstamp, now they act like they are using a credit card when they swipe their big yellow FOODSTAMP card. Yes, we all know what they are. We see you using it. We watch you pull away in your Escalade while talking on your $400 phone and stuffing your face with McDonald’s. You’re pathetic. Stop mooching!

  136. American Blacks seems to be the one with the MOST PROBLEMS? highest welfare, highest drugs, highest laziness,highest crimes, highest in everything except an education?? they get free food, free education,free homes, free clothes, free medical, free utility’s, free extra privilege’s for employment(company’s get big perks for employing blacks,and even have to have a quota,whether any of those employed meet the educational requirements or not)….they all blame the white man for holding em down.. I wonder who would hold them down if we sent them back to Africa? I have some great African friends who SPEAK CLEAR ENGLISH,are educated,work hard,know how to wear their pants, and as a whole are blacker then black and cannot stand American blacks as well. My African Friends earned their way, and really had it hard and suffered to succeed. I am not profiling,just stating facts.

  137. On my way home from work a few days ago, I pulled up behind a white pickup truck full of tools on the outskirts of Aurora, Colorado. It purported to be a work truck, although by the look of its immaculate paint and the pristine tools it was carrying, it was hard to imagine that the occupants did much actual work. What really caught my attention, however, was the sticker placed conspicuously an upper corner of the rear windshield. It read: “You’re in America Now; Speak English or Get Out!” The sticker struck me as particularly apposite at the time, since I happened to be on the phone with one of my good friends, and we were speaking to one another in — God forbid! — Spanish.

    These trite stickers, and myriad others like them, have become extremely popular ever since the Bush-Greenspan-Paulson-Obama-Bernanke-Geitner gang managed to all but annihilate the American job market. For the man who has lost his job and has no education in economics, it is extremely tempting to heap curses and blame for much of his plight on the so-called “illegal” immigrants he sees working all around him. He sees foreigners mowing lawns all over town, cooking meals in virtually every restaurant he patronizes, and installing every roof in his borough, and he reasons that his current plight is due primarily to the fact that these foreigners “steal” jobs that otherwise would be his for the taking. The biggest insult of all, to his mind, however, is the fact that these foreigners don’t have the courtesy to speak his language when they immigrate to the United States, and yet they still manage to find and “steal” jobs from English-speaking Americans like him!

    Now, it would be one thing if these xenophobic, bitter, envious, and economically ignorant men confined their vitriol to simply announcing to the world that they hate foreigners working in America — especially non-English-speaking foreigners — and left those of us who are not raging racists or ignorant protectionists alone. We could then ignore their ill-mannered rants and pity them for their inability to understand the economics of the labor market, or to compete in the economy against uneducated and non-English-speaking foreigners. (It is truly astounding that these men can’t compete against half-literate immigrants who don’t even speak English, a fact that reflects rather badly on the public “schools” these men wasted years of their lives in.) Men have a right to believe in whatever idiotic ideas they can pack their brains with, and I have no right to try to force these men to learn about the economics of labor markets. It is quite another thing, however, for these men to run to Big Brother to beg him to smash all of the businesses who employ “illegal” immigrants, and it is completely intolerable for these men to run around town telling us what language we can speak!

    I don’t care what your particular gripe is, I will not be told by anyone what language I can speak or who I may or may not employ with my business. Anyone who thinks he has a right to interfere with my life in that intimate way can go straight al infierno!

    I am just as much an American as anyone else living between the imaginary line south of Texas and the other imaginary line north of Wisconsin, and I will speak whatever Goddamn language I wish. If I want to speak only Turkish and employ only Turkish-speaking immigrants, then I will, and you can go straight to cehennem if you don’t like it. If I want to speak only Arabic and employ only Arabic-speaking immigrants from Iraq, then I will, and you can go straight to الجحيم if you don’t like it. I will not be told what I can or cannot say by anyone claiming to be an “American,” least of all by some unemployed, hyper-patriotic, monolingual moron. If you have a problem with men like me, then start your own company and try to put us out of business. Don’t go whining to Big Brother to smash us like a cowardly, snot-nosed little preschooler.

    Better yet, you could really put us in our place if you got off your lazy asses and showed us business owners that you are just as competitive in the labor market as you assume you are. Pick up a hammer and tool belt and come tear off a roof with me in the blazing summer sun for ten dollars an hour and see if you really can compete with those remarkably efficient and hard-working immigrants. Buy yourself a commercial lawnmower and see if you can mow eleven hours a day, seven days a week for eight dollars an hour, like those tough and cheap immigrants. If you can do it, you are welcome to a job with my company. If you cannot, or you are too proud and spoiled to work that hard for such small remuneration, then you will know for certain that those immigrants didn’t “steal” a job from you, they out-worked you for it. You were the Chrysler of the labor market, as it were.

    It is a simple and obvious fact that American business owners don’t choose to employ “illegal” immigrants just to irritate unemployed Americans. They do so because the immigrants are able and willing to do jobs either more efficiently or more cheaply than prissy, overeducated, and under-skilled Americans, many of whom don’t know the difference between a hammer and a screwdriver. American business owners would obviously prefer to hire English-speaking and “legitimate” (according to government bureaucrats) workers — especially business owners who don’t speak a lick of Spanish. They just can’t find Americans who are willing to bleed and sweat all day tearing off a roof, for example, at a wage that would be reasonable. Nor do American business owners set out to learn and employ a different language in order to irritate smug and overpaid American union men. They learn another language in order to effectively hire cheaper and more efficient workers in order to make your roof cheaper, your landscaping cheaper, your cooked meals cheaper, and your new concrete driveway cheaper. And this is how your repay them for making the things you buy cheaper, by smearing their linguistic entrepreneurship, because you were too lazy to learn another language yourself?

    The best solution of all would be for you to stop blaming “illegal” immigrants entirely for things that are not their fault. It’s not the “illegal” immigrant’s fault that Greenspan created a housing bubble that induced millions of Mexicans and Hondurans to immigrate to the United States in order to work in the overheated and unsustainable housing market. It’s not the “illegal” immigrant’s fault that the U.S. government’s borrowing, printing and spending has almost fatally injured the private American job market. It’s not the “illegal” immigrant’s fault that the U.S. government pays out massive amounts of welfare to “illegal” immigrants and to myriad other groups of lazy, incompetent or otherwise economically parasitical classes of people. Why not blame the slick criminals in Washington who are ultimately at fault here, instead of wasting your ire on poor Juan who mows the neighbor’s lawn?

    So, I implore you, stop wasting your time and precious energy fighting poor “illegal” immigrants, when you could be fighting that gigantic sucking, murdering, and wrecking machine in Washington. When times get tough, like they indubitably are today, it is important to prioritize one’s actions. Fighting an ugly, jingoistic, and ultimately doomed battle against “illegal” immigrants should not rank high on today’s list. And neither should telling other people what languages they can speak (who the hell do you think you are, anyway?).

    Turn your attention instead to the war-making, tax-eating, propaganda-spewing, money-printing, economy-wrecking, busy-bodied rats in Washington, and leave me and poor Juan alone.

  138. Bilingualism is to be encouraged not only for communication or business purposes, but because it fosters greater respect and understanding. It shows reciprocity in international and personal relations, and foreigners are flattered when you show that you have at least made an attempt at learning their language.

    So, why, when I’m on the road, do I often see bumper stickers demanding that the reader “Speak English or Get Out!”?

    Fact: The United States is a multilingual nation. Most large American cities have burgeoning immigrant communities from all over the globe, and even smaller ones, such as mine, have signs and official documents translated into one, two, or even three languages. I walk into my orthodontist’s office and hear the receptionist jabbering away in fluent Spanish. My passport, and that of any American, for that matter, has its text translated into French and Spanish.

    • “Foreigners are flattered”? Citizens of the U.S. are flattered to hear foreigners speaking English. Try going to many parts of France where many French citizens are visibly bothered by foreigners who do not try to speak French, during daily transactions.

      I think many who want America to bend to Spanish don’t care that they are forcing many out of work in America, especially since those many tend to be Blacks. Blacks are the out-group yet again!

      • Very true!!1 I am a Black woman that speaks limited spanish. I have been looking for a job for over a year, I am almost done with my BS degree…but 40% of the jobs i cannot get because “must be bilingual” is required. I am outraged, depressed, and incensed!!

        • Blacks are being thrown under the proverbial political bus. Politicians, Black interest groups and “Black leaders” have all sold Blacks out to appease illegal immigrants over legal citizens. This treatment is violating some of the very freedoms the Civil Rights movement gave Blacks. Damn I’m mad; illegals are reaping the benefits of the Black blood that poured. Look close the groups that push amnesty for illegals, they are not friends of Blacks but are basically in a constant troll for new votes.

          Take your concern to the EEOC, the plan should be to protest, make EEOC claims and even bring law suits, the only way to get these unempathetic bigots attention is to cause legal pain. They took Blacks ancestral languages and now Blacks are forced to learn another group’s language in order to survive.

  139. 322 languages are spoken in the country, with 24 of those spoken in every state and the District of Columbia. California has the most languages, with 207, while Wyoming has the fewest with 56. Declaring an official language would abridge the rights of individuals with limited English proficiency, individuals who are paying taxes and who are entitled to the same rights as those who speak English.

    • In Mexico there are many areas where if you do not know Spanish, you are in for a hard time getting around. C’mon, Mexicans complaining about those wanting English in America is very hypocritical! Most of Mexico is just Spanish. But America should be stupid and go down a path dictated by hypocrites. I see the hypocrisy, you may not because you benefit more than other groups.

  140. My problem with these AT&T commercials is that the only black body present is put into a position of exploitation. The entire “clown act” propagated by the white adult/teacher (i.e., person of power/dominance), suggests the exploitation of the black body. In these commercials, the black children, like the white children, are actors. For contextual purposes, let’s assume acting is synonymous with puppeteering. After all as an actor, you are told what to do and how to do it. This “puppetry” generates a comedic performance, and audiences giggle or laugh at the black child as well as his exploits. Note: the racist iconography of blacks is illustrated as clown-like, buffoonery. People don’t realize that the images in these AT&T commercials may speak to contemporary and previous historical events that shape the black experience: minstrelsy, physical abuse for a white audience’s pleasure or enjoyment, all in the name of economic productivity. All I’m saying is that AT&T needs to be more cognizant of what it means for a black child to be “made fun of” in a predominantly white setting. For that, make all the kids white, and maybe it won’t be so damn noticeable. Jeesh!

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  142. Hi there! This article couldn’t be written much better! Going through this post reminds me of my previous roommate! He constantly kept talking about this. I most certainly will forward this article to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing!

  143. It really isn’t difficult for an English speaker to learn Spanish. I quickly found out that the position I was interested in upon obtaining my Bachelor’s degree with the state of Texas, required I be bilingual in English and Spanish. I studied Spanish for only 30 minutes a day and was fluent within two years. I think one can become bilingual (particularly for an English speaker to learn Spanish) far easier and faster than it is to fight this. Just my two cents.

    • The point that it is not difficult for English speakers to learn Spanish is irrelevant. It is reasonable that the incoming traveler learn the language of the country in which they are deciding to make their new home. Not the other way around. Just like it would not be fair for thousands of English speaking Americans to move to Mongolia and demand that the 90% that speak Khalkha Mongol now learn English to get a job.

  144. In its last complete National Criminal Victimization Survey (1994), the Justice Department revealed blacks to have committed 1,600,951 violent crimes against whites. Only 15 percent of these had robbery as a motive. We can safely infer that most of the rest had race as at least a partial motive. Eighty-five percent of the attacks were assaults and rapes. While blacks were committing these 1.6 million crimes against whites, whites were reciprocating with 165,345 violent offenses against blacks. Blacks, representing thirteen percent of the nation, committed more than 90 percent of the violent interracial crime. Fifty-seven percent of the violent crime committed by blacks had white victims. Less than 3 percent of violence committed by whites had black victims. In 1994, a black was 64 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. This is the real story of hate in America. It is the media’s well-kept secret.

    • What does your comment has to do with legal citizens losing a chance for employment to illegal people? The real hate is that many do not care that many legal citizens, especially Black citizens will ultimately be hurt by this love affair with illegals. Yes Blacks commit illegal acts, punish and lock-up those that do. Just as Latinos break the law by entering the US illegally should be punished for that crime, not rewarded.

  145. Whether you fine illegal aliens or stick them in English classes or make them say a hundred Hail Marys, at the end of the day, illegals would be allowed to stay and become citizens… That’s amnesty. And that’s a great thing for America. Amnesty won’t depress wages – globalization has already done that. Amnesty will not undermine the rule of law. [...] It sounds counterintuitive, but with immigration, forgiving a crime may be the best way to restore law and order. Amnesty won’t necessarily add to the social-services burden. [...] Amnesty would offer millions… a fighting chance at self-sufficiency and social mobility. Every empirical study of illegals’ economic impact demonstrates… undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services. Moreover, undocumented immigrants contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs.

  146. They do almost ALL of the americans dirty work, have HORRIBLE lives in latin america, africa, etc. , this country was built on immigration, they greatly contribute to the economy, and if are leaded down the right path can achieve greatness both mentally and financially. and i know latinos are not the only immigrants but they have the most awards won by any race in the army, and letting you know holmes that they will hit you with the “they greatly contribute to crime” then you tell them “i think giving up one life for the lives of hundreds of thousands of people would be a good thing. wouldnt you? after all we ARE ALL humans, and should help eachother out no matter what nationallity” that should shut them up. hell thats wat i have done and its gone pretty gud shutting up all those racists(not all were racists but you gets the idea)

  147. If an employer has need for a bi-lingual or multi-lingual person and that need is part of the job description, it is no different than someone not being accepted for a job than requires heavy lifting if they are unable to do so. There are many jobs that would require more than one language. If an employer is being discriminating in hiring someone who meets the requirements to do the job, that is not “discrimination” in a bad sense.

    Would it be discrimination to turn down a male applicant for a ladies room attendant? Or a female for a men’s locker room? Or a 90 pound weakling for a job that requires constant lifting of 80 pound items? A person in a wheel chair to be a fireman expected climb ladders and carry people out of burning buildings?

    Jobs may require certain qualifications without being discriminatory.

    • What is continuously missed in translation is that the need to hire more bilingual workers is the trickle down effect of the high numbers of illegal immigrants swarming the U.S. job market. Illegal means are forcing many legal citizens out of work.

  148. In a FREE MARKET employers are free to choose employees who have larger skillsets. It makes sense to hire someone who can communicate with a larger percentage of the company’s clientele. Some things simply are NOT govt business.

    • Illegal immigrant clientele! Millions of Illegal’s are dictacting the free market, if legit immigration your logic is reasonable, but since we are talking illegal immigration, it is illogical to allow illegal’s to dictate anything over the legal citizens of a country. Those that don’t see this do not want to or care to, it affects you in no way so you don’t care.

  149. Unfortunately, English is NOT the official language of the USA — Congress has refused to make it so. So, if you are bilingual (especially Spanish) you often have a better chance to get a job. Some states even have put in their ads for state positions that you must speak Spanish.

    Not that I agree with any of this! I think those coming to the USA should be required to learn English but until it because the ‘official language’ — well, not much one can do!

  150. Here in TX a lot of companies have myriad customers who speak poor english. But they are customers. If you apply for a job at such a company and you can speak english and spanish and have the skills they need, they’re gonna pick you over someone who can’t communicate with many of their customers. It’s life. It ain’t gonna change.

  151. “The reaction to Jeantel by court watchers has often been unkind, or on Twitter and social media, downright cruel and flat-out racist,” Hayes pointed out, but added that some have rushed to defend her, citing an excellent piece of comentary by The Nation’s Mychal Denzel Smith, entitled Thank You, Rachel Jeantel. Smith commended Jeantel for standing up to ” the condescension and silencing and character attacks” on behalf of black youths everywhere. White race-deniers will call this an overreach, but what Smith has done is identify Don West’s strategy. More on that in a minute.

    Hayes pulled McWhorter into the discussion by noting that “what we are watching in the courtroom, over the last two days, are two people from very different cultures, from very different linguistic backgrounds, encountering each other while all of America watches. It’s been an incredible thing to watch.”

    “It’s been a little scary,” McWhorter said. “Sometimes it’s like she’s speaking Hungarian, and he’s speaking Cantonese. She’s been articulate, just in a different kind of English than mainstream English.”

    “She’s speaking Black English,” McWhorter explained. “Everything she says, where you can see the Twittersphere, or people I know thinking she’s making a grammatical mistake. If a Martian came down and the Martian happened to be in South-Central rather than in Grand Rapids, the Martian would have as hard a time figuring out how this dialect worked as any other. She said in the clip that ‘I had told you.’ Many people are thinking, ‘Why is she using that?’ That’s Black English. My cousins did that when I was little. It’s the narrative pluperfect. Linguists talk about it.”

    McWhorter began to talk about willful misunderstanding of Jeantel, and Hayes jumped in. “That’s it! Willful. thank you!” he said. “That’s the thing that has caught me here. I understand what she’s saying.”

    He then pointed to a clip of West loudly and condescendingly ” translating,” for the entire courtroom, a statement Jeantel made about the mailing area.

    “Everyone understood what she was saying. Everyone understands the mailing area,” Hayes noted.

    McWhorter agreed. “She’s quite comprehensible. It’s just that people don’t want to understand her and the whole larger question.”

    McWhorter also made a fairly devastating point against the no white people ever who were authentically aggrieved by Trayvon Martin’s alleged use of the word ” cracker” to describe George Zimmerman.

  152. Most states are “at will” employment states. That means employers can hire and fire as they wish. Lack of required skills needed to perform the job duties is a valid reason not to hire somebody for a particular job. However, they might be willing to hire you for a different position; provided they have another job opening that does not require a bi-lingual individual.

    In the mean time, go to the public library and start getting language tapes and books on speaking Spanish. That way you can be ready for the next job opening. Sorry but Ebonics does not count as a second language, Spanish is the future, accept it, Im Asian and I just gave up my hatred and learned Spanish, now I’m trilingual. Learn Spanish you lazy bums, it’s a SKILL, learning spanish does not mean you have to give up your american citizenship, it just means learning something new, The president is a black man and the moderator is still pissed off at the Spanish language, LEARN SPANISH, STOP COMPLAINING AND STOP BEING UNDER QUALIFIED!!!!!

    • Why the hate toward Blacks? All Blacks don’t speak Ebonics. What you have lost in translation is that I’m complaining that illegal immigration is behind employers hiring bilingual workers. Legal residents should not be force to be second to illegal immigrants. I sense that you don’t care for Blacks at all. Love illegals, hate legal Blacks.

  153. As of 2010, 329 to 400 million people speak Spanish as a native language and a total of speakers are between 470 and 500 million, people speak it worldwide. It is the second most natively spoken language in the world, after Mandarin Chinese. Mexico contains the largest population of Spanish speakers. Spanish is one of the six official languages of the United Nations.

    It is estimated that the combined total number of Spanish speakers is between 470 and 500 million, making it the third most spoken language by total number of speakers (after Chinese, and English). Spanish is the second most-widely spoken language in terms of native speakers. Global internet usage statistics for 2007 show Spanish as the third most commonly used language on the Internet, after English and Chinese.

    The Spanish language is the second most-common language in the United States after English. There are more Spanish speakers in the U.S. than there are speakers of Chinese, French, Hawaiian, and the Native American languages combined. According to the 2007 American Community Survey conducted by the United States Census Bureau, Spanish is the primary language spoken at home by over 34 million people aged 5 or older. There are also 45 million Hispanics who speak Spanish as a first and second language and there are 6 million Spanish students, making it the world’s second-largest Spanish-speaking community, only after Mexico and ahead of Spain, Colombia and Argentina. Roughly half of all U.S. Spanish speakers also speak English “very well”, based on the self-assessment Census question respondents.

    According to 2006 census data, 44.3 million people of the U.S. population were Hispanic or Latino by origin; 34 million people, 12.2 percent, of the population more than five years old speak Spanish at home. Spanish has a long history in the United States because many south-western states were part of Mexico and Spain, and Florida was also part of Spain, and it recently has been revitalized by Hispanic immigrants. Spanish is the most widely taught language in the country after English.

    Although the United States has no formally designated “official languages,” Spanish is formally recognized at the state level in various states besides English; in the U.S. state of New Mexico for instance, 40% of the population speaks the language. It also has strong influence in metropolitan areas such as Los Angeles, Miami, San Antonio, New York City, and in the last decade, the language has rapidly expanded in Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Phoenix, Richmond, Washington, DC, and Missouri. Spanish is the dominant spoken language in Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory. With a total of over 44 million Spanish (Castilian) speakers, according to US Census Bureau, the U.S. has the world’s second-largest Spanish-speaking population. Spanish ranks second, behind English, as the language spoken most widely at home.

    Spanish is the most widely-taught non-English language in U.S. secondary schools and of higher education, thus establishing its importance to non-Hispanic Americans. More than 1.4 million university students were enrolled in language courses in autumn of 2002 and Spanish is the most widely-taught language in American colleges and universities with 53 percent of the total number of people enrolled, followed by French (14.4%), German (7.1%) Italian (4.5%), American Sign language (4.3%), Japanese (3.7%), and Chinese (2.4%) although the totals remain relatively small in relation to the total U.S population.

  154. So, let’s make this wonderful language, the second official language of United States of America. U.S. should have strong ties with Latin America and Latin People. Let’s honor all the hispanic immigrants, they help us building this amazing country.

    • Honor illegal immigrants? How about honor the Chinese, Japanese and Middle Eastern legal immigrants. What about honoring the millions of Africans who lives and country was ruin by slavery? And don’t twist reality, this country was built mostly by the blood of Black slaves, so please don’t try to steal that from Blacks.

      • Not in California, Arizona, Texas. Blacks built the country in the areas they were slaves, even illegals will ALWAYS have more rights than blacks in the west because the west used to be mexico. The white man came in and STOLE the land from mexico, some people say war and all that bull#@$%, they stole it, the original California constitution was in both english and spanish. I wonder what the moderator thinks about the 40 million legal hispanics who are bilingual. The funny thing is that the whole anti hispanic bull$#@! is only here is the USA, the anti black bull#@$% is a worldwide problem, the moderator seems to forget that it was the white man who enslaved his people, not spain or mexico.

        • There’s no anti hispanic BS from here, only anti illegal immigrant talk and rightfully so, they are ILLEGAL! And Spainards/Mexicans STOLE the land from Native Americans. With racist people as yourself prejudging all blacks, it does help spread hate. And yes whites enslaved blacks, does that mean we now suppose to give in to another’s language and culture? Spain and Mexico have never been friends of blacks either.

  155. Why dont mexicans go back to mexico and eat tacos, why dont blacks go back to africa to their banana trees, why dont whites pack their trailer park and head back to europe? THIS IS THE NATIVE AMERICANS LAND!

  156. Five Facts About Immigration

    We all know that the United States is primarily a nation of immigrants and their descendants. But, it is also true that the United States is an independent nation in part because of a reaction to a restrictive immigration policy. Among the grievances against King George set forth in the Declaration of Independence in 1776 was a concern that the king had worked to prevent and discourage immigration to the colonies.

    Our status as one united nation also depends on having one immigration and immigration enforcement policy set by the federal government in Washington, DC. When the United States adopted its Constitution in 1787, the nation settled on being one united nation rather than a loose confederation of separate independent states. If each state, as Arizona attempted in SB 1070, could adopt its own immigration enforcement policy, we would cease to be one nation.

    Critical industries in the United States depend on undocumented immigrant workers.Agricultural farming has been an important part of our history and remains a crucial industry today. Several studies have estimated that well over half of all agricultural crop workers in the United States are undocumented.(1) Moreover, there are no indications that American-born workers have an interest in adopting the lifestyle of migratory farm workers.

    There is no single “line” to wait to immigrate legally to the United States.Our current immigration system discriminates on the basis of national origin, or ancestry, requiring much longer waits for those from countries like Mexico, China, India, and the Philippines. For example, the adult son or daughter of a United States citizen who comes from most countries in the world currently waits four to five years to immigrate, while the adult son or daughter of a naturalized United States citizen from Mexico must wait almost 18 years to receive a legal immigrant visa.(2)

    More than two million undocumented immigrants came to this country as minor children.(3) Many of these immigrants went to school here and were raised as American kids. Our national values have never punished or blamed children for acts that they committed while under the direction of their parents.

  157. “It happened in April 2012 on my way from Massachusetts to Texas, I rented a brand new 2012 Jeep Grand-Cherokee, somewhere in Alabama stopped for some gas, going in to the gas station counter with my 50 bucks in my hand cause(up to there I had drove and used my visa card at different states in less than 24 hours, so it was blocked). Entering the shop there were 4 white dude charting with the man at the counter ” I said HI to them then handed my 50 bucks ” may I have some gas please at pump number 1? ” the guys stopped charting and the answer was “WE DON’T HAVE GAS TODAY”. Right there I looked outside and saw two white guys with gas nozzles in filling the gas to their cars as usual. Immediately, some struck in my mind “RACISM” went out took off like 4 miles ahead found a SUNOCO gas station had my tank filled went on my trip. I’m from Africa, can’t believe up to today of what happened. Why so hate-full, do black people eat humans or what?

  158. As a bilingual I can safely say that learning two+ languages has helped me tremendously. I have now taken up French, Spanish, and a little Hindi as well. It’s been proven that children under the age of four are capable of learning multiple languages at once. It isn’t even that expensive: all it takes is someone to talk to. Learning languages isn’t tedious and it has been linked to improved English speaking skills and can delay the onset of Alzheimer’s Disease by as much as 10 years. American students are behind students of other countries in that less than half of all American students are studying more than one language while the rest of the world is studying up to three and four at a time. If we want American students to remain competitive in the 21st century we need to begin teaching languages at the elementary level.

  159. People who claim that students “already have enough to learn” fail to recognize the fact that the more languages you speak, the more you are able to understand from multiple perspectives. Studies have also proven that if you learn another language, your literacy rate improves. America is the only country who claims “this is America, we speak English?” And those people are ignorant. Other countries do not claim that statement, they want their children to expand their minds and be able to communicate in multiple ways. I would also like people to take note that every one who has voted “no?” On this debate have simple grammatical errors, poor sentence structure, as well as poor arguments. People who struggle with sentence structure and grammar could actually improve those skills if they spoke another language. Apparently the American education system failed to teach them simple skills. Thus, something obviously needs to be

  160. There are a little over 196 nations and territories in this world. We have taught ourselves as Americans to believe that America is the world’s dominant country and superpower, and all nations should follow in its lead. This, ladies and gentlemen, is quite untrue. In Europe, children can be taught up to three languages in school alone. When they come here, be it to find a job, or simply for leisure and travel, most can speak moderate to basic English, and can hold a basic conversation. Most of the time with Americans, when we visit a foreign country, all we can say is “Merci, boucoup”, or “Hola”. Shameful, no? The power of a child’s mind is astonishing. Immersing a child in a foreign language starting at a young age will surely be quicker than being 12-18 in junior/high school, copying notes about grammar off of the chalkboard. As our world and the people in it advance in fields of politics, science, math, and other academics, America’s role in the world becomes stronger each day. This is why I think it is important for our children, America’s tomorrow, should learn a foreign language; starting from a young age.

  161. “Most people in the world are multilingual, and everybody could be; no one is rigorously excluded from another’s language community except through lack of time and effort. Different languages protect and nourish the growth of different cultures, where different pathways of human knowledge can be discovered. They certainly make life richer for those who know more than one of them”

  162. While illegal immigration is a crime, the act of crossing the border without authorization is a mere misdemeanor. Immigrants, in fact, may help drive crime down. The vast majority want to stay in the country in order to work and so naturally steer clear of breaking any laws. And as The Future of Freedom Foundation’s Sheldon Richman pointed out a few years ago, all manners of violent crimes dropped dramatically since 1986, the last time an amnesty was granted to illegal immigrants. Yes, 14 percent of federal inmates are illegal immigrants, but they are largely there for immigration violations. On the state level, Richman notes, less than 5 percent of inmates are illegal immigrants. Not exactly the makings of a crime wave.

  163. The single, dominant reason for Chicago’s high murder rate is the concentration of very low-class Negros who have undergone a multi-generational cultural decay in a city which since the ’60s has been the hotbed of radical Leftism and tolerance of crime committed by minorities and particularly Negros due to the ideological perspective of the Left that any police action to restrain Negro property crimes and violence was per se racist. The Left is strongly racist and believes that Negros are incapable of making a decent living by their own work and in fact are in need of being coddled by the Left as a population of sheep to be shepherded by the enlightened white Leftists who have conveniently ensconced themselves in strictly separated communities from their sheep (e.g., Hyde Park versus the surrounding Negro areas). Under the “helping hands” of the Leftists, the Negros were indoctrinated to believe that they were entitled to goods, services, housing, and other privileges simply because of their raceand not based on work. Work became an abstract concept to them, replaced with a militant entitlement mentality. Coupled with lax police enforcement, black gangs arose and extended the entitlement mentality both within and outside their communities – where theft, extortion, strong arm robbery were viewed as not only acceptable, but in many cases admirable ways of getting what they felt they were owed. Gang-based property crimes, including illegal drug related crimes which occur between gangs and individuals, became the replacement for the traditional work ethic and achievement, which was derided as “acting white” after generations of single-mother welfare children had become indoctrinated by the Left that Negros were entitled by birthright to take whatever they could get by whatever means due to historical racism and the inculcation by the welfare state that Negros were incapable of competing and earning their own way in the world. Gang-based property crimes escalate to violent crimes and the laws of the jungle re-emerge as traditional morality and beliefs about social conformance to “white laws” are eroded. So we wind up with Mogadishu by the Lake.

  164. I’ve been out of a job for two years
    now, and all of the jobs that I’m qualify for and applied for states that I have
    to speak Spanish. It’s crazy! No wonder the Economy is not getting better, for
    people like myself. Today I went into a store that just open, and this was a Government
    base Employer. I went in with my hopes up high that definitely my searching for
    jobs has come to an end. I know within myself that I’m 100% qualify. I went in and ask the person
    over the counter, are you hiring? She didn’t understand Me and that’s because
    she didn’t speak no form of English. Then someone comes from the back, who
    seems to speaks a little English. I asked, are you hiring? She said yes, I said
    great! She then said only Bilingual. Right at that moment my spirit just broke
    into pieces.

  165. Oh, by the way. Don’t blame us for this problem. You need to blame our government and the big companies that come down here looking for business and are always ready to say: “Se Habla Espanol”. If they didn’t make it so easy to communicate in Spanish, we wouldn’t have a problem.

  166. Believe it or not, it is legal to force an American to speak a foreign language as a job requirement, so long as the requirement is legitimate. And in this case, the courts would find it legitimate, since many of their customers in South Florida only speak Spanish.

  167. Let me make it simple for you idiot freepers. It’s all a result of that beautiful perfect capitalistic society you worship. It’s supply and demand. There are a lot of Mexicans in Southern California doing “crap” [edit] jobs that we don’t want to do. Now they’ve become a huge market sector and any large business would be stupid not to have Spanish-language marketing materials. And it’s not just Spanish. If you go to Garden Grove, there are sections where not knowing Vietnamese is a liability. Same thing in Koreatown in LA. Armenian in parts of Glendale. The whole “my grandparents had to learn English” argument is so 19th century that it’s not even worth responding to. My advice to OP is to move to someplace a little less ethnic…

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